very much feeling like that right now isn't it? I read a piece saying that at this point, having several Dems run for the nomination could really get their base fired up and put them in a much better mood for November. plus prime-time expositions of the RW nonsense (eg P2025) could help educate many undecideds/independents. no clue if that would be logistically do-able given the calendar mind you. and of course, Dems being Dems, they'd likely spend that time taking positions that would p.o. as many voters as it attracted.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/article/2024/jul/18/biden-dnc-nomination Joe Biden has reportedly become more open in recent days to hearing arguments that he should step aside as the Democratic presidential candidate after the party’s two main congressional leaders told him they doubted his ability to beat Donald Trump. While continuing to insist he will be the party’s nominee in November, the president has reportedly started asking questions about negative polling data and whether Vice-President Kamala Harris, considered the favourite to replace him if were to withdraw, fares better.
agreed. also, I've read that polling amongst US women of colour indicates they don't back her because - better than anyone - they understand how she'd never get elected.
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I know nothing about inner party politics and influence, but it was always a mystery to me why she was picked as Biden's VP, an important job from the beginning given his age. Her polling numbers in the primaries were beyond dismal and she just doesn't have a whole lot of presence. I've already mentioned alternatives like Susan Rice, that on the face of it would be a miles better candidate. Now the Dems have a real predicament.
I'll read through this, looks very interesting but it headlines (correctly) "inflation" as an election issue. Inflation is no longer the issue, its the resulting higher cost of living people are having to deal with that is the driving economic problem, along with real wage growth or the lack of it in comparison with living costs.
Biden had said he wanted a black woman. He was pandering to his base. Why he picked that black woman is beyond comprehension.
But why do you (or does anyone not a Republican or heavily leaning that way) make the critically bizarre assumption that Trump, with all his rancidity and criminal-to-everyone-else's-record-not-protected-by-a-sham-Supreme-Court, and lack of coherent policy, and situation surrounded by stated intention iniquitous weirdos (Bannon, Miller, Peter Thiel, Project 2025, etc) who want to wreck the last vestiges of working government that took 90 years to build, and the conviction for $85 million from a sexual assault thrown in atop all that..... make the assumption that 'this thing" will possess more voter appeal to previously normal centrist, independents and women who care about their rights than Biden ( a pretty average non-disaster bringing, sleepy old guy)? I'm not saying that blind, ill-logic isn't in play and somehow running the show - but why? Is it that you think that all these rational people have just abandoned or are going to simply abandon seriousness, sense, practical worry and rationality?
But 3 of the 4 "expert" polling analysts I've listened to on PodCasts, etc - have said that they think most non-heavily-politically-involved-aligned peopel don;t care to tune in until approx labor day and after when the Main election Campaign is in full swing. And consequently do not answer polls. maybe they are flat-out wrong for the first time ever, but i don;t know why on Earth that would be - particularly when it concerns the mass voting for one of the rottenest human beings ever.... So, I'm wondering deeply if it isn;t all a bunch of horse-sh!t
Here’s an interesting little tidbit. All fundraising done by the Democrats so far will have been done in the name of Biden/Harris and all cheques would have been made payable to the same. Therefore the only legal entity who can lay claim to those considerable funds (the Democrats has consistently out raised Lumpy) is Kamala Harris. Not the Democratic Party, not any other potential candidate, no senatorial candidate, no notion of a central pot or anything like that. Therefore out of sheer logic and logistics, Harris will be the nominee as no one else will out raise her now. Plus no way no how if Biden steps down in the cause of party unity would he allow a free for all to decide who to replace him. The only way this scenario gets overturned is if Harris too is persuaded to step down. Given that she has done little wrong other than be unpopular, that’d be a tough case to make. Assuming Biden steps down as nominee, the road to November and who the nominee will be, runs through Kamala Harris, for all the influence Obama, the Clintons and other elder statespersons of the Democratic Party may have. It’ll be her decision. Plus consider the optics. Where the Democrats have serious leads over Lumpy is with women and black voters. How’s it going to play if a black woman is “invited” to step aside for a white guy (say, Gavin Newsome) now?
well that's discouraging. how about Newsom with her as VP on the ticket? btw, as I posted earlier ...I've read that polling amongst US women of colour indicates they don't back her because - better than anyone - they understand how she'd never get elected. I'll see if I can find it.
I heard that previously - but i for one can't see why they (Biden) can't cash the entirity of funds tomorrow if they wish, and then pay it to an advertizing Consultancy - one newly formed as an actual entity but administered by the new democratic Campaign Staff??? This consultancy then pays all advertizing that it can afford to.... and all new money to the new ticket.....
Assuming Biden goes and Harris stays, this could be one of the very few times the VP is actually important and means something.
All to stop that black woman Harris? Are you wonkychomp, f.ucknuts deluded? How’s that going to play with…anyone? Harris is Biden’s pick, so there’s a certain loyalty there already, plus no way no how is Biden going to agree to step down for the sake of party unity, only to open up a WW3 of a Democratic civil war to succeed him. When/if Biden steps down, the nominee will have been agreed.
Rep. Jamie Raskin (Md.), a key Democrat on the House committee that investigated the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, wrote a letter to President Biden earlier this month urging him to consider the fate of the country if he stays in the race. The letter, dated July 6, was first reported Thursday by The New York Times and obtained by The Hill. Raskin addressed Biden as an admirer, supporter, friend and “fellow politician.” “But I write to you now, above all, as a fellow citizen who shares your mad love for American democracy and freedom. We are under siege every day by the autocrats and monarchists, from Moscow to Mar-A-Lago, and the decisions we make will be historic for the fate of our country,” Raskin wrote. In the four-page letter, Raskin said he was not writing to tell Biden what to do, but rather to “remind you of who you are.” https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/4780446-raskin-urges-biden-listen-democrats-letter/
Well, I don;t know what their thinking is - but I kind of meant (they) to mean Biden/Harris... both..... and if they wanted to step down, as in, if they both agreed that Joe's too old and K. Harris was unlikely to win, then what I suggested would be the way to play the money through the end-game. A way, if a way to use that money elsewhere became necessary. But I do concede your point that it is highly unlikely to become necessary, as neither seem to be wanting to step back......
Crowdstrike in the news today - just saw their CEO on tv. mid-50's guy with a haircut that TinTin would be proud of. looks like an idiot. not exactly confidence-inspiring you tit.