Rape/Sexual Assault Culture - Part 2

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  1. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    I have no idea. I will say, I would not be surprised at all to learn that there's a correlation between a taste for violent porn and misoygny. In fact, I would be surprised if that did not exist. But which leads to which?
     
  2. russ

    russ Member+

    Feb 26, 1999
    Canton,NY
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    So what came first?The chicken the egg or the incel?
     
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  3. Naughtius Maximus

    Jul 10, 2001
    Shropshire
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    Chelsea FC
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    That seems likely.

    The problem with ALL these things is that there was a period before porn was readily accessible and, I hate to break it to people, but we had misogyny then as well and, frankly, probably more than we have now.

    This is the problem. The available data doesn't seem to show what people want it to say.

    TBH I think it's similar to the old chestnut of how much violent video games make people violent or whether they're a release for their violent tendencies.

    I don't think it's clear as to exactly how much influence one has on the other.
     
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  4. JohnR

    JohnR Member+

    Jun 23, 2000
    Chicago, IL
    Yep. It was clear as day to people who disliked violent video games that such games made people violent. They were sure of the connection. I was not so sure, because why would I be, absent the evidence?

    I still have no idea, in truth. Does anybody?
     
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  5. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    There's no reason to be sure. I played violent video games and never became violent. I also played sports video games and never got a pro contract. The people who have issues with adult entertainment probably have them about all sorts of activities and customs in this country, regardless of all other factors.

    Vegan hipster hakky sack playing Starbucks breath having earth tone T-shirt wearing misfit dude: "Well, I'm his sister's BFF. We text regularly, and she told me he had a small stack of Penthouses growing up. I'm not surprised he did this"

    St Jude's cancer research scientist: "I had a BIG stack. I'm not surprised somebody like you made the connection..."
     
  6. Auriaprottu

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    I played educational games, too. I DO think they made me smarter.
     
  7. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    I see no evidence of that.
     
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  8. Auriaprottu

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
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    I'm not surprised.
     
  9. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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  10. benni...

    benni... BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 23, 2004
    Chocolate City
    she settled out of court, no?
     
  11. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    She did. I assume he agreed to pay some shit load of money. It was a civil case anyway not a criminal one. Hopefully, other victims will find the strength to go after him.
     
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  12. Belgian guy

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  13. The Japanese government has apologized to a woman in the Japanese army, who had been subjected to sexual harrasment and when she complained nothing was done. She went to court to get justice and she won, making the government offer her public apology for their behaviour.
     
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  14. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    This scumbag should never see the light of day anymore.....
     
  15. Belgian guy

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    The new piece actually revealed more details that weren't reported on before. From the original reporting, it sounded like murder and attempted murder following a failed rape attempt but it now sounds like he actually raped the murdered girl after throwing her friend off that cliff...
     
  16. Belgian guy

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  17. Belgian guy

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  18. Auriaprottu

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    England may not have an innocent until proven guilty policy, I can't say. It would not have helped the Scottsboro Boys, as they were convicted.

    The Prem can adopt the role of judge and jury and get rid of these players ahead of their court dates. The court of public opinion will reward them handsomely.
     
  19. soccernutter

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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The EPL is just as bad at looking past sexual abuse/assault/rape as the NFL is. And probably all of the major sports in the US. It's the fans looking past that stuff as well.
     
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  20. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    I was musing about whether England has an innocent until proven guilty policy.

    Maybe they should abandon it if they do? It worked for the Scottsboro Boys because they were convicted, so treating them as guilty was acceptable, I suppose...
     
  21. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
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    Isn't that based on Common Law?

    The Scottsboro Boys have little to do with the way teams and fans ignore sexual assault and abuse by their players/coaches/owners.
     
  22. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    ???

    We copied their system, so yes, they have that policy.
     
  23. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

    Mar 9, 2000
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    What an exceptionnaly brave young woman. She is an inspiration.
    (cross posted in the abortion thread).

    ‘Everybody’s daughter’: The rape victim behind Kentucky’s viral abortion ad
    Hadley Duvall helped Democratic Gov. Andy Beshear win reelection -- and she’s ready to campaign again in 2024.

    By the night of the football game at Midway University, pretty much everyone sitting on the bleachers knew the secret Duvall had kept for 10 years: She’d been raped throughout childhood by her stepfather, who pleaded guilty to rape, sodomy and sexual abuse, and is now serving 20 years in prison. He started sexually abusing her when she was 5 years old, according to police reports — at first convincing her that his behavior was normal, then holding her down when she finally realized it was not.

    Kentucky Gov. Andy Beshear’s reelection campaign learned aboutDuvall because of a Facebook post about her experience she had written on June 25, 2022, the day after the Supreme Court overturned Roe v. Wade. The ruling triggered a near-total abortion ban in Kentucky, one of 12 states with a recently enacted ban that makes no exceptions for rape or incest. Days after she heard from Beshear’s team, Duvall was sitting in the dining room of a wealthy Beshear supporter she didn’t know, staring into a video camera. She aimed her words directly at the Republican candidate for governor, who for months had thrown his full support behind the current version of Kentucky’s law before conceding late in the campaign that he was open to additional exceptions.

    “This is to you, Daniel Cameron,” Duvall said in the ad, her blue eyes narrowed in anger.

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/12/04/kentucky-abortion-ad/
     
  24. soccernutter

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    Near the mountains.
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    United States
    Read that earlier. She rocks.
     
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