Rape/Sexual Assault Culture - Part 2

Maybe not. Then again, my son dated a young woman with a similar background, albeit while not knowing her back story. So such relationships do occur without predatory intent.

 

It was a work environment and he had a habit of dating girls from work.He knew.

 

Yeah, he presented it as a joke... as part of his 'act'. It was more in the form of a nod and a wink that, 'I'm saying this stuff but I'm not really like that'.

Like I say, not dissimilar to Cosby back in the day...

 

That's the thing I find most shocking. That something we're now told was 'common knowledge' wasn't common knowledge to the rest of us. It was just common knowledge to certain people in that industry... and they did nothing about it.

No. That's just 20/20 rear vision I'm afraid, despite stuff like this...

 

Well, you say it's not 'the' point but it's 'a' point and a pretty important one at that. If what is being claimed is true he quite clearly has committed several criminal offences and we have to have some way of differentiating between that and what BG just said about some fella who 'made a woman feel uncomfortable'.

I mean any fella who's ever asked a girl out and got rebuffed has probably 'made them feel uncomfortable' but there's a world of difference between that and raping someone. There's even a world of difference between a fella who's tried to kiss a girl and got pushed away and some guy trying to take a girl's underwear off as one of the claims about brand is IIRC.

If we're now saying that despite him committing several criminal offences it doesn't matter if he gets away with them that's a pretty unfortunate position to be in, isn't it?

 

There's an obvious thought that occurs about that story... if he'd been confronted when his behaviour was just unpleasant and, (I assume), 'creepy', would he have continued that behaviour and it possibly become more ingrained.

One thing the met police racism and sexism stuff showed is that these people don't just 'get better'. Being a sexual predator isn't like a cold... you don't 'get over it'.

Actually, in that regard. I'm in the middle of watching this with Emily Maitlis and Lewis Goodall...



The thing about this is, it seems similar to Laura Kuenssberg's piece on BBC 'State of Chaos' documentary where she doesn't seem to have ANY self awareness of her part in the story.

These are people in the news media who you'd like to think would have some knowledge, at least about some of the stories concerning him and yet, didn't really treat what he'd presented as 'jokes' as anything other than 'jokes'... despite the fact that Maitlis, in particular, had interviewed Brand in 2017.

 

To a large extent that is incorrect -

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/misunderstood-crimes/

 

Well, it's important to say that those studies seem to be about people who have been recognised as sexual predators. What we're talking about here are people who seem to have gone unrecognised which I think makes a difference.

IOW if the person that BG was talking about had been confronted about his behaviour earlier maybe he'd have realised that what he was doing was wrong or, maybe more to the point, that other people saw it as unacceptable.

If these individuals get the idea that what they're doing is fine what reason do they have to stop.

 

Has this made the rounds yet?

Michigan State Seeks to Fire Football Coach Amid Sexual Harassment Case

 

I will celebrate when this fascist creep is locked up in jail.

Cassidy Hutchinson, the former Trump aide turned crucial January 6 witness, says in a new book she was groped by Rudy Giuliani, who was “like a wolf closing in on its prey”, on the day of the attack on the Capitol.

Describing meeting with Giuliani backstage at Donald Trump’s speech near the White House before his supporters marched on Congress in an attempt to overturn the 2020 election, Hutchinson says the former New York mayor turned Trump lawyer put his hand “under my blazer, then my skirt”.

 

Why did her mental health issues make it not ok to get involved with her?

 

She should have slapped the shit out of him. He's what- 70 years old? What's he gonna do?

 

Use his power and influence to destroy her career.

 

Somebody has to take the L to get rid of him.

She slaps the shoe polish out of his hair and screams loudly and repeatedly at him to not touch her inappropriately again, it's less likely to happen to another woman.

 

Yeah, I have been wondering that too. Women who have depression issues shouldn't be permitted to be in relationships?

I also wonder why it is assumed that one employee, even a boss, would know another employee's health history. Ain't nobody at my company knows mine.

 

BG is probably one of the most well-meaning posters here, but you're not going to get a response that can stand up to logic and reason. You just aren't.

I think most of you are a little crazy myself, lol

 

Indeed I am. Which is why I'm asking this question of him. I'm wondering if I wasn't supposed to get involved with anyone.

 

That doesn't line up with what was said, though. He said that the reason he thought their relationship was "a bit distasteful" was specifically because "this woman had been battling depression and bipolar disorder for years and was no more than six months removed from her most recent period of being institutionalized when they started the affair." Her mental health history made it distasteful.

 

My point was more that a member of senior management - who was later found out to be a predator - should probably not get involved with a subordinate who is six months removed from a serious mental illness crisis.

Interpreting that as "bi-polar people should not date" is kind of extreme.