Racism - Always and Forever

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  1. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    when you contort like that to explain away racist statements of politicians you support… are you ever in a position to kiss your own ass?
     
  2. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    No. The fans are conservative, all day, every day. The Venn diagram of players who are Black and have never been lynched in effigy in the US is a circle. Even with Trump's rise to power, I don't think that's happened yet.

    That he didn't get visibly upset is not an indicator that what they did is acceptable. Getting a rise out of the player thru racism-based conservatism deserves a response, but the TOS don't allow me to suggest it.
     
  3. xtomx

    xtomx Member+

    Chicago Fire
    Sep 6, 2001
    Northern Wisconsin, but not far from civilization
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    Merely pointing out that YOUR outrage may not be shared by those who YOU assume were insulted.

    Also, I see that, as usual, you failed to provide any substantiation for your attack.

    Please stop posting nonsense.
     
  4. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Nah, let him post. We need a new ITN around here.
     
  5. Pønch

    Pønch Saprissista

    Aug 23, 2006
    Donde siempre
    Back when ITN was around i always felt he was playing a character of a ridiculous over the top conservative, sort of like the old Colbert show. Then vfish came along and I wasnt so sure anymore, and with the current conservative deep thinker contributor I'm almost certain they wholeheartedly drink their own kool aid.
     
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  6. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Yeah, vfish was like a Hannity call-in regular. He savored the role of just being a contrarian for its own sake.
     
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  7. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    I posted a racist quote by then Dem Senator Biden

    I don’t know what else I can do for you
    You are too twisted for me to untangle
     
  8. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    --other--
    That means the thread must be closed.
     
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  9. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
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    That's Flavor Aid goddammit. :p
     
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  10. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
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    OSP Lechia Gdansk
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    Poland
    as you would assume, I don’t agree with your assessment

    to me, it’s like this…
    We’re all fish swimming in the ocean and you (and many others here) insist that they are dry and keep wanting a definition of and proof that water exists

    and anyone who says otherwise is a troll, fascist, racist … or whatever is required by the compulsory Two Minutes of Hate
     
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  11. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
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    Seattle Sounders
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    You do enjoy playing the victim. You really do specialize in performative outrage.

     
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  12. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
    Jun 27, 2000
    Club:
    OSP Lechia Gdansk
    Nat'l Team:
    Poland
    you keep saying that
    Do you need me to play the victim?

    I’m merely following the precedent of established behavior here on P&CE

    in this particular instance, it was a precedent which you established
     
  13. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
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    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    When I was teaching in Memphis, I got to know some of the different ways Black women did their hair. And I started asking questions, and it got to the point where 2 or 3 times, there was hair did in class at the end of the day. At that point, I started asking if I could touch the extensions to understand texture (this was after it was explained to me about glues, sew-ins, weaves, etc. and the synthetic v. natural hair). But I only did that with students in the context of learning/teaching as it was always followed up with a couple of questions. I never did it with any of my coworkers. We had conversations, but touching their hair? Beyond weird.

    But I dated a woman here in Milwaukee who told me about how guys would just come up to her and touch her hair, no conversation, no asking, just...man, that is creepy.

    Not shocked. The Ultras of several Spanish clubs are rather racist. I know there was a bigger issue with Real Madrid a bit back as the Ultras had some level of power within the club.

    Is? You mean, this is 2007?

    This has been dealt with by everybody who actually cares about it.

    I read it as DT was mocking they way White people would say he should take it.
    I have less faith in the Spanish authorities (at any level) dealing this than here in the US.
     
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  14. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    Projection, 'jection, what's your function?
    Gonna point some fingers cause I'm scared of in-tro-spec-tion
     
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  15. marek

    marek Member+

    Lechia Gdańsk
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    needs more work
     
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  16. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

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    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    I can count the number of sisters other than my mom and women I've dated whose hair I've touched on one hand. One. I have never dated anyone who wore a weave.

    There is no way on Earth I'd ask someone if I could touch their hair. I've never asked a White student if I could touch her hair. I don't need to understand it.

    Agreed. That's an intrusion on privacy.

    He knows what I know about race. I was half joking with him.
     
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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
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    LIES AND GASLIGHTING AND BOTHSIDES AND PROJECTIONS
     
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  18. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    #7243 song219, Jan 27, 2023
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    I feel the same way about the hair touching as I do the pregnant woman abdomen touching. Maybe they're both some sort of primordial cave dwelling behavior that thankfully didn't get passed down to me.
    Too bad few women post here because they are the ones who are affected and I would be more interested in their takes.
     
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  19. Auriaprottu

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    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
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    Atlanta
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    --other--
    They cut loose the Donald BUT they still maintain his affections
     
  20. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ghana
    You know I was just repeating the excuses that have been doled out for that kind of behavior over the years.
     
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  21. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    I thought I remembered @phedre44 having an humorous anecdote or two.

    My wife had several instances of people commenting on her pregnant body. It's like people reaching out for connection, and they think they have the perfect ice-breaker.

    It definitely extends to babies too, before they can talk much.

    And then there are creepy people that follow you around in the grocery store.
     
  22. Cascarino's Pizzeria

    Apr 29, 2001
    New Jersey, USA
    This Vikings tweet is umm...odd

     
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  23. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Vanuatu
    Commenting is bad enough but did they touch her?
     
  24. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    My wife (or I, if I was there) would be in prison if it got that far. She's pretty amazing at keeping her bubble clear and using body language & verbal language to keep unwanted attention away.

    It took me the better part of a year to get a date with her.
     
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  25. Auriaprottu

    Auriaprottu Member+

    Atlanta Damn United
    Apr 1, 2002
    The back of the bus
    Club:
    Atlanta
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    "We adhered to the Rooney Rule and now we're gonna hire a White boy"

    Just another reason I love the NFL so much
     
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