My situation has changed a lot this year and i wont be the one who will be able to keep this thread going--but I figured being so close to the end of the season we were overdue for this thread. The wildcards are usually played near Halloween so we still have a few weeks left. The top 6 as they currently stand: NY Red Bulls 51 pts Games Played 30; 4 games remaining-- 12 pts possible LA Galaxy 51 pts Games Played 32, 2 games remaining-- 6 pts possible FC Dallas 50 pts Games Played 30; 4 games remaining--12 pts possible Vancouver Whitecaps 49 pts Games Played 31; 3 games remaining-- 9 pts possible DC United 48 pts Games Played 32; 2 games remaining--6 pts possible Sporting KC 48 pts Games Played 31; 3 games remaining--9 pts possible Right now it looks as if it's New York's SS to lose--however anything can happen. Should NY start slumping, Dallas, Vancouver, and Sporting all have a realistic chance with 12 pts, 9 pts, and 9 pts respectively all on the table. Things look a lot more difficult for DC and the Galaxy with only 2 games left to play.
I don't know. This is about the point of the season where having games in hand can be counterproductive. LAG only has two games. One is at home and they don't lose there. If they win both they are at 57. If that happens and if FCD loses at Vancouver tonight, then FCD must get points in their last three games, which is tough.
Existing 2015 SS Race Thread here: http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/supporters-shield-race-2015.2022407/page-3 We don't have a dedicated thread for WS this season yet, though the race is almost over by now, with Chicago as the overwhelming favorite.
NYRB up by 2 goals and 1 man at HT vs MTL. The race will be almost over if FCD drop any points this eve. http://matchcenter.mlssoccer.com/ma...ew-york-red-bulls-vs-montreal-impact/boxscore
1. Vancouver 0-0 FC Dallas 2. @Ismitje Can this topic be locked or merged into http://forums.bigsoccer.com/threads/supporters-shield-race-2015.2022407/page-3 ?
The Chicago Fire are all over this thread. Unfortunately, by "all over" I mean that it was all over for the Fire's "Race for the Supporter's Shield" in October, 2013 (when Frank Yallop, aka potato, was hired). Now that he is gone we are ready for the race in 2016...no, wait Andrew Hauptman still owns the club. I guess we will start gearing up for, whenever. Carry on, you teams with a legit chance!
Where are the tiebreaker rules for the Supporters Shield? Someone told me yesterday that one of the tiebreakers is the number of cautions and ejections the team has received, I.e.a fair play tiebreaker. Is that true?
so sad that head to head is not used as a tiebreaker you have to believe that at the very least head to head would be a better tiebreaker at #9 than a freakin' coin toss
I agree, eventhough some teams do play each other odd number of times in a season: thrice for in-conference & once for cross-conference match-ups (possibly the reasons H2H was dropped altogether for its perceived "unfairness"). Before 2012, H2H was the Top Tiebreaker, despite the uneven number of home/road games among teams. (The SS were actually decided by H2H on 3 occasions, with Chicago the unlucky losers twice. ) In fact, it has been pointed out that Tiebreakers #7 and #8 are pretty useless, if teams are already even on #2, #3, #5 & #6. Would second the proposed resurrection of H2H as Tiebreaker #7, with Coin Toss & Draw Lots as #8.
The way things are right now, how likely is it the Supporters Shield will get to the fair play tiebreaker?
It should be raised at the end of the game, once the winners are known. More pertinently, "where" will be SS be, if more than 1 team have a shot at it on the final day of the season? Usually, the real thing will be at the game involving the leading team before the day. I wonder if there will be replicas prepared at the other games as well.
"Usually"? Hasn't the Shield been lifted by the winning team at the end of a game only for the last two years. I know the Red Bulls did in 2013 and the Sounders in 2014. I don't remember seeing the trophy on the field in 2012 when the Quakes won it. I think it was presented to the team by the supporters at the opening game the next season. "Usually" the Shield was lifted by supporters at the MLS Cup Supporter Summit.
Is the Supporters Shield really an MLS trophy? I thought it was produced by the supporters groups and therefore was not a shiny glorious thing to hold up anywhere but in a supporters group gathering.
And the Supporters Summit no longer exists in its previous format, as MLS Cup is no longer at a preset stadium.
Alright, my bad, the "SOP" would apply to the new Shield Trophy, which came into being in 2013. By the way, base on the archives below, the Shield seemed to be raised post-game in 2011 & 2012 as well, be it on the field (LAG) or locker room (SJE), respectively. 2012: http://www.mlssoccer.com/post/2012/12/21/armchair-analyst-san-joses-ascendance-not-surprise 2011: http://www.lagalaxy.com/post/2011/10/16/arena-donovans-leadership-key-las-success
If you want to have a trophy presentation at the end of a game next Sunday then send the Shield to Frisco, TX. The Red Bulls cannot officially clinch at the end of their game on Sunday in Chicago. Even if they win which would give them a huge goal difference advantage, the only team that could clinch at the end of a game is FCD.
It's official: www.mlssoccer.com/post/2015/10/20/decisionday-schedule-change-new-york-red-bulls-and-fc-dallas-matches-kick Now, where's the Shield at the moment and where will it be on that day? Answer: Somewhere in Toyota, be it the PARK or the STADIUM.
@EvilJesseMarsch @NewYorkRedBulls @VikingArmy_SC Seattle still is the Supporters' Shield owner!— Supporters' Shield Foundation (@SupporterShield) October 20, 2015 Apparently, the Shield is still in Seattle now...
No, Seattle does not have the shield. They may be the current Shield holders, but that will end on Sunday. The Supporters Shield was brought to PA by a Seattle supporter, and delivered to Red Bull Arena by a friend of mine last Sunday when the Union played RBNY. So, my guess is ESC has the Shield currently. https://www.facebook.com/ericlfd/posts/10153715421117533:1