Raúl Gudiño @ APOEL FC

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  1. Special_talent23

    Real Sociedad
    Mexico
    Mar 26, 2017
    Tuvo que ver en los 3 goles?
     
  2. ipaman

    ipaman Member+

    Apr 5, 2004
    HOUSTON, TX
    yup. if he were a stock he would be SELL, SELL, SELL!! shame too because he showed so much potential.
     
  3. beat junky

    beat junky Member+

    Jul 4, 2007
    CA
    @ him bruh don't be scared.

    @Colima24 no se deje.
     
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  4. Blue_Demon

    Blue_Demon Member+

    Aug 20, 2006
    TX
    Club:
    Club León
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
     
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  5. jrinsd19

    jrinsd19 Member+

    Sep 1, 2005
    San Jose, CA
    Club:
    CF Indios de Ciudad Juárez
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He could've done more on the 3rd one. It was more on the defense than him
     
  6. Athazagoraphobia

    Jul 28, 2012
    Vancouver
    Club:
    CF Atlas Guadalajara
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    He looks extremely slow to react.
     
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  7. SGuerrilla

    SGuerrilla Member+

    Sep 8, 2014
    en la cueva
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Tall keepers tend to do that. I remember Croatia's keeper in Brazil was tall and slow as hell to get down to shots on the ground. That's why Oscar scored the 3rd from so far out. That's why Rafa scored the 1st.

    I think Raul coulda done more on the 1st and 3rd goals.
     
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  8. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    No le tengo confianza a este muchacho. Think about how terrible those games are where you know the keeper is shit so you're clenching your ass any time the ball gets anywhere near the box. And then think about that keeper possibly being the starting GK for the NT for years to come. Gives me anxiety. Wish him well but I really dislike keepers who are slow to get down.
     
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  9. Hempseed07

    Hempseed07 Member

    Real Sociedad
    Mexico
    Apr 14, 2017
    Things can change he might be slow now but hopefully in a couple years he'll be faster.
     
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  10. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    Kind of a small sample size to declare you don't feel confident in his abilities, no?

    This is one thing I don't understand. Who in the current GK pool for the NT is "fast" to get to the ground to deflect shots? Has it ever been a strength for Mexican GKs? If not, why is this a metric used against a young GK who is trying to make his way in Europe?
     
  11. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Kind of small, yeah.

    Who has been fast to get down. Oswaldo. IMO the best keeper we've had in recent times. From the current crop I don't think any of them are particularly bad at it. This guy seems genuinely slow to block low shots.

    If your only point is to wait and see how he develops, then sure point taken.
     
  12. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Started in today's 1-1 draw vs Ethnikos Achna FC.
     
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  13. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    You just said Oswaldo was our best keeper in recent times.

    A goal keeper whose main attribute was reactionary saves.

    That is exactly my point.
     
  14. El Pipiripau

    El Pipiripau Member+

    Jul 10, 2006
    Escondido!!!
    Club:
    Club Santos Laguna
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    I thought his main attribute was being shameless, asking the opposing team to stop trying, but that's just me.
     
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  15. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    In any case I don't understand why you think I can't critique a young keeper on a flaw that according to you every keeper in recent times had (since according to you that's the metric, even though there is no real reason it should be).
     
  16. ...In my defense

    ...In my defense Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 11, 2006
    I pointed out that the sample size you’re basing your opinion on is rather small.

    I didn’t criticize your opinion.

    Obviously we remember Oswaldo differently if you think he was the best GK in recent times.
     
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  17. turibird

    turibird Member+

    Jun 1, 2008
    Juarez
    Just got scored on against borussia. Not his fault
     
  18. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    What are you talking about? He didn't play today.
     
  19. turibird

    turibird Member+

    Jun 1, 2008
    Juarez
    Ope mediotiempo tricked me my bad
     
  20. Pasionporeltri1

    Chivas
    Mexico
    Oct 29, 2017
    Lol
     
  21. Salmos

    Salmos Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 26, 2010
    Berkeley, CA
    Club:
    Pachuca CF
    Fair enough for the first 2 sentences.

    Oswaldo had a short prime for a GK. A lot of his later career is filled with blunders but prime for prime, I think he's better than anyone in our current pool.
     
  22. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    No mames, Ochoa in top form puts him to shame.
     
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  23. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    This. If anything he's had the weakest top form of all our recent World Cup goalkeepers. Oscar Perez 2002 form was better than Oswaldo at his best. Same with 90's Campos.
     
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  24. thedragonrik58

    thedragonrik58 Member+

    Los Angeles Football Club
    Mexico
    Jul 5, 2011
    Palmdale
    Club:
    CD Chivas USA
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Actually I agree with most of this, I think Oswaldo's form was better than 2010 Conejo's form. Other than that, I see eye to eye with you.
     
  25. Rafael Hernandez

    Rafael Hernandez Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2002
    I said top form. Obviously it's the same guy, (Oscar Perez) and his form at his best was in 2001-2002, which was better than Oswaldo's top form ever.
     

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