Question for Yanks......

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by uber_coupon, Nov 29, 2004.

  1. uber_coupon

    uber_coupon New Member

    Sep 16, 2004
    Copland Rear, Ibrox
    Which Football (soccer) Clubs have the biggest following stateside, both MLS and non-MLS alike? Are European clubs more popular than American ones?

    thanks in advance. :confused:
  2. GutBomb

    GutBomb Red Card

    Aug 28, 2003
    Outside Boston
    1. Manchester United
    2. Real Madrid
    3. Arsenal
    100. Any MLS Club

    the euro super clubs are much more popular than MLS clubs here. Typical Americans have some fixation that if their team/league is not the best than it is not worth watching or supporting.

    Not true of many on this site however. There are tons of people (Me included) that love our MLS club (Real Salt Lake for me) but there are FAR more fans of euro teams that ignore MLS than MLS fans.
  3. wonko389

    wonko389 New Member

    Oct 11, 2004
    jax, fl

    Yeah, I more or less agree with this. It pisses me off that people think the MLS is a joke, its not, and then passionately support a team they have never even seen play live. Im not sure which pisses me off more, the MLS haters, or the people whose whole family has been in this country for ages and still doesnt support the national team. Growing up in NY and seeing people who dont even speak Italian supporting Italy over the US makes me sick.

    First for MLS to get some respect you have to get **************s like Tony Kornheiser referring to the MLS as a "third rate league." That assclown knows nothing about the sport whatsoever. Oh, and he is also a Redskins fan, yuck!!!
  4. Bonji

    Bonji Moderator

    Feb 4, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Around here we like to call the people who like European football clubs better than American soccer teams, Eurosnobs.
  5. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    FC Dallas

    You also have to keep in mind the Mexican clubs. In certain parts of the country, i.e. Texas and California, these are probably the most followed teams. It will be interesting to see how Chivas' involvement in MLS next year draws these fans into our league. My hope is that they come to watch Chivas and learn that these American guys can really play.

    For me. DC UNITED!!!
  6. DCunited11

    DCunited11 New Member

    Nov 2, 2004
    yup, i would support the USMNT or WNT any day over a european team, i would even go with any mls team, especially DCU. if you are american, you should definetely support the americans, not the europeans. i agree with the earlier post about not seeing the other teams play live and liking them more-that is totally right. once you see a game (live, in person), in your country, for your country, you get even more pumped up. i love it! after seeing them in person, it makes you want to follow them and know every single player.
  7. ddw31089

    ddw31089 New Member

    Jun 14, 2004
    Gothenburg, Sweden
    I think Americans may have a tendency to jump on the bandwagon of the top teams. However, when it comes to MLS it is important to remember that until last year only 10 American cities had MLS teams. Unfortunately it becomes kind of hard to support one team fairly strongly when you don't have any sort of connection to any of the teams.

    I think that is one reason why many Americans do not become too attached to specific teams unless they live in a big city or support a local college team.
  8. denver_mugwamp

    denver_mugwamp New Member

    Feb 9, 2003
    Denver, Colorado
    I don't think the answer is very simple. By following, do you mean someone who passionately follows the club or just someone who wears the ball cap or the jersey? If you're going by people wearing ball caps, the New York Yankees have the biggest following everywhere in the world, including a great many people who don't even know what sport the team plays. And does a season ticket holder count the same as someone who watches a game if they happen on it watching the TV? And how do we count people who list both a MLS and a European team, which would include most of BigSoccer?

    I remember being in London some years back, talking some guys at the tube station. Every one of them could list what team they supported in every US sport including baseball, football, and basketball. Is that an English thing where you select a team and "follow" them? I'm afraid I just don't get the question.
  9. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    On what do you base that?

    I wanna see what the 3 clubs you mentioned would draw playing every other week.
  10. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Good point. Additionally, the league is entering its 10th year of existence -- many, including myself, watched and supported teams abroad before MLS existed.

    MLS faces a unique challenge in American pro sports where the best league in America isn't the highest level of that sport. MLS asks fans to support a league that -- let's be honest -- is a step below the top teams in England, Spain, and Italy. What do people cheer for if not the highest level of play? The home team. And as stated above, when the "home" team is a thousand miles away, feeling connected is tough, even in the age of instant scores and analysis.
  11. SoccerPrime

    SoccerPrime Moderator
    Staff Member

    All of them
    Apr 14, 2003
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To answer the orginal question, I would think that DC United, Metros, LA Galaxy and Columbus Crew (in that order) are the most popular MLS teams. Where they are on the overall list of most popular soccer/futbal teams, I have no idea. I would venture to agree that several high profile Euro teams Like ManU, Madrid and Roma are probably bigger than most MLS teams.
  12. Brownswan

    Brownswan New Member

    Jun 30, 1999
    Port St. Lucie, FL
    I'm a Yank and I follow Metro zealously, MLS passionately, and the USMNT religiously. Soccer is the only team sport I follow, and I keep up with football news from around the world and catch matches on FSW. I'm drawn to foreign sides with US players, but I'm not a fan of any team outside of MLS generally and Metro specifically.

    And Metro makes it so hard to be a fan! Imagine going to a ball game in your home town, and your favorite player on the team is the village idiot. He's hopeless, but you're stuck on him!
  13. Onionsack

    Onionsack BigSoccer Yellow Card

    Jul 21, 2003
    New York City
    FC Girondins de Bordeaux
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Well if you go by attendance then:

    LA Galaxy
    DC United

    But to be fair, there is no clear "most" arguement could be made for DC because of its 4 titles.... but it wouldn't be made by a Metro fan like me.

    Non MLS is probably a close race betwenn ManU, Real Mardid, Club America. But if I had to guess it would be Manchester United easily.
  14. Femfa

    Femfa New Member

    Jun 3, 2002
    Los Angeles
    For MLS, going on average attendance alone - since the league's inception, the L.A. Galaxy would be number one.

    As far as what foreign teams are popular - there's no real way to track that - since they don't play here regularly and we can't measure a specific standard. The occasional tours are often attended by very casual fans curious to see what the fuss is about.

    What pisses me off, frankly is the youth club system that has been populated by many foreign coaches who think it establishes their "credibility" to slam MLS. One coach (40 years removed from being raised in Wales) told my cousin not to watch MLS games because it would deteriorate his skills and he would learn "bad habits". The coach knew this, of course, by not watching the games. So the kids on the team don't go to see their local MLS club, but can name the top teams in Europe. They don't really follow them, though, they just know their coach likes those teams.
  15. DoctorD

    DoctorD Member+

    Sep 29, 2002
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Now, now Brownswan. Wolyniec just looks like the village idiot.
  16. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003
    MLS is a third tier league at best. Its not a first class league like Serie or La Liga. Its not a second class league like Portugal or Belgium. That doesn't mean it doesn't have many redeeming qualities and a lot of positives surrounding it..

    Listen people need to stop blaming outsiders for MLS's problems. If you want people to stop slagging you off do something to shut them up.
  17. Northside Rovers

    Jan 28, 2000
    Austin TX
    FC Dallas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Come on.
  18. gherter

    gherter Member

    Sep 16, 2002
    Leesburg, Virginia
    I agree with you. I doubt there are more than 5 European clubs that an average American sports fan can even name. Regular people might get two, Manchester United and Real Madrid. Those two might get some interest from US fans, but the rest are an afterthought that won't ever get beyond FSW. The Mexican teams probably get more attention than any others, but that is only because there are so many Mexicans and Mexican-Americans here. Other Americans could care less about Mexican Soccer. Also, in certain markets the MLS team is the number one soccer draw, DC is one by a long shot, for instance. I suspect Columbus is another, and Real Salt Lake will be. The LA Galaxy would be except for the Mexican influence. Rochester would be another, if they get into MLS.
  19. mnthunder

    mnthunder Member

    Jun 6, 2002
    The most popular clubs in the states are the following (probably close to this order):

    1)Club America
    2) CD Guadalajara
    3)Pumas de UNAM
    4)Cruz Azul

    A Premiership team is probably one of the ten most watched/followed teams in the United States.

    As anything on bigsoccer, this is based on nothing more than a hunch.
  20. goyoureddevils

    Dec 17, 2002
    Fort Wayne, Indiana
    I run a soccer retail store in a soccer rich city...... those three teams sell better than all mls teams combined when it comes to posters, tee shirts, scarves, replica jerseys and all other team related items including videos.
  21. Freddy Garcia Lives

    Feb 28, 2003
    Tumwater, WA
    For me, I just have a hard time finding an overseas team to be passionate about (I try with Leicester, since I have a family connection). Attending Crew games is what has made me a big fan of theirs, more than a comparison of quality of play. This has also made me a frustrated fan at half full stadiums at best and fans around me that don't even have a clue of when to cheer, or what is happening. So I am a fan of the European passion, but I'm always a hometown fan, for good or bad.
  22. Michael CM1

    Michael CM1 New Member

    Jun 5, 2002
    Atlanta, Georgia: US
    I honestly don't know whether there are more MLS or non-MLS soccer/football fans in the US. Personally I like DC United and like to watch Man U games on FSW at times.

    I'm fairly sure that as of right now DC United has the largest fan base in MLS. I'm sure any marginal fans want to see Freddy Adu just like the women's league had marginal fans that wanted to see Mia Hamm. I would not be surprised at all if Chivas USA has the second-largest following in a hurry. But as of right now, I would guess the Metros have the second-largest following thanks to being located in New York.

    There will probably be a bunch of people interested in Bayer Leverkusen now that the face of US soccer is playing for them.
  23. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Well, you do have some information, so you're making more than a wild guess.
    However, I would think that fans of Mexican and Central American teams are more likely to get their merchandise from back home, if they didn't bring it with them. While your store (which sounds like an awesome place to work, by the way! :) ) may be merchandising to Americans who've picked a favorite team from watching Champions League on ESPN2 and FSW.
  24. Rommul

    Rommul Member

    Aug 26, 2003

    Lots of good player come out of Belgium. Lots of young Africans go there. Lots of players get sold from there. They have higher budgets at most of the teams and can attract a higher class of talent.

    Come on what. Is it some sort of disaster if MLS is not as high a level as Belgium?

    How can we expect this league to go anywhere if we are not honest with ourselves about where it is now?

    MLS is not as good as Jupiler League.
  25. mpruitt

    mpruitt Member

    Feb 11, 2002
    E. Somerville
    New England Revolution
    Could you please stop trying to ruin every single thread on these boards with your tired crap? Pretty please?

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