Proximos Partidos Amistosos - Seleccion Absoluta

Discussion in 'Ecuador - National Team' started by ecua_toriano, Apr 15, 2011.

  1. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    Remaining World Cup teams without a confirmed March 5th friendly :

    CAF: Ghana, Nigeria
    AFC: Australia
    CONCACAF: USA, Costa Rica, Honduras
    CONMEBOL: Ecuador
    UEFA: Russia, Bosnia
     
  2. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
  3. Primitive Ways

    Primitive Ways Member+

    Jan 30, 2009
    Florida
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I am so going to Miami for the England game.
     
  4. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    God dang it. When are they coming to California! Can't wait till the new 49ers stadium and the San Jose Earthquake stadium are done building this and next year. Hopefully it brings more soccer games here to California.
     
  5. ecuaboy12

    ecuaboy12 Member

    May 18, 2005
    Lehigh Acres FL
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Same here bro!!!
     
  6. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
  7. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I think im going to fly out to Miami for the England game too. Should be a good time.
     
  8. ECUA-718

    ECUA-718 Member

    Apr 9, 2010
    I wish they would play that June 4th friendly against England in NY and the March 5th friendly in Miami... Early March weather in NY isn't going to be that nice :rolleyes:
     
  9. jonny63

    jonny63 Member+

    Feb 17, 2005
    Norway
    El Presidente de la Federación Ecuatoriana de Fútbol, Luis Chiriboga, anunció el día de hoy que la Tricolor Nacional jugará el próximo día miércoles 5 de marzo su amistoso FIFA ante la Selección de Australia en la ciudad de Londres.

    Pese a que en primera instancia la FEF había anunciado que el amistoso se jugaría contra un rival europeo, esto finalmente no se dio y la Tricolor enfrentará a otra selección mundialista como lo es Australia, pensando en su participación en el Mundial 2014 que empezará el próximo mes de junio.

    http://studiofutbol.com.ec/chiribog...te-australia-en-londres-el-proximo-5-de-marzo
     
  10. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    #710 b9d23m89, Jan 26, 2014
    Last edited: Jan 26, 2014
    I like this. I think we need to start our friendlies smoothly with a lighter opponent and Australia fits the picture perfectly. Good game to experiment w/ Marlon, Gabriel Corozo, Fidel, etc.
     
  11. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    We'll probably get the role call in the next weeks?
     
  12. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Arqueros:
    Máximo Banguera
    Alexander Domínguez
    Adrián Bone

    Defensas:
    Gabriel Achilier
    Frickson Erazo
    Óscar Bagui
    Jorge Guagua
    Juan Carlos Paredes
    Walter Ayoví
    Christian Ramírez
    Mediocampistas:
    Antonio Valencia
    Édison Mendéz
    Renato Ibarra
    Fernando Saritama
    Cristhian Noboa
    Segundo Castillo
    Jefferson Montero
    Fernando Gaibor

    Delanteros:
    Fidel Martínez
    Enner Valencia
    Felipe Caicedo


    That's the call up list for the upcoming friendlies. I don't understand why Mendez and Saritana are called up. They haven't don't crap lately. I take Rojas over them any day. Specially Saritama! I'd also take Michael Arroyo over both because he has been playing consistently and at higher level. Another player I'd take over them would be Miller Bolaños.

    Colon is never going to be called up again and I understand why now. He isn't NT material. Also De Jesus is injured but he seems to be a major bust.

    That defense looks terrible, but there really isn't any better players to pick from.
     
  13. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Mendez is doing really well in Santa Fe. You must be kidding if you think he wouldn't be called up playing at that level. As long as Mendez plays and does well in his club team he will be on the roster period simply b/c he's Edison Mendez. El es unico.

    Saritama surprised me being on the list b/c he hasn't played much and just transferred to BSC, but then again it wasn't much of a surprise b/c Saritama is one of Rueda's favorites so he's always going to get called up no matter what. I'm actually surprised there's no real #5 on this roster besides Castillo and Noboa. I was thinking maybe Alex Bolanos or Pedro Quinonez would get a call up, not so much b/c they're stand outs, but out of necessity. They're not bad players, but they're no cracks either...they're just good/ok.

    Joao Rojas has never really convinced me fully that he can win a starting spot on this NT at any given point in time. He's been there an entire Qualifier and never won a spot even when he had the chance to. He's a good sub at best IMO and I doubt he'll ever be a really important player to the NT. Fidel and Michael are better than him. If anything, Michael should be on this list. Marlon is missing, John Narvaez is missing, and Gabriel Corozo are missing. Let's see how this kid Ramirez does. Rueda is giving Ramirez and Gaibor one more game to see if they got what it takes to make it in the final cut in June. I'm wondering if Narvaez is out of the question or if Rueda will try him out in the last few games.

    If I were to make the list right now i'd do this (23 players):

    Dominguez
    Banguera
    Bone

    John Narvaez
    JC Paredes
    Gabriel Achilier
    Frickson Erazo
    Jorge Guagua
    _______
    Walter Ayovi
    Gabriel Corozo/Leonel Ramirez


    -At this point I think Rueda does not plan on adding another center back to this NT. If anything I'd say maybe Diego Calderon has a chance simply b/c Rueda used to call him up before he got injured in the MLS. Another great option would be to include both Gabriel Corozo and Ramirez in the list and use John Narvaez as a center back. Corozo is also capable of fulfilling the center back position if needed. If Rueda's smart he'll call up Narvaez soon b/c it's the best we've got and he can fulfill two positions if needed; same goes for Gabriel Corozo.

    Cristian Noboa
    Segundo Castillo
    Alex Bolanos/Pedro Quinonez
    Edison Mendez/LF Saritama/F. Gaibor
    Antonio Valencia
    Renato Ibarra
    Jefferson Montero
    Michael Arroyo

    Fidel Martinez/Joao Rojas/Junior Sornoza
    Ener Valencia
    Marlon De Jesus
    Felipe Caicedo


    -Narciso Mina got injured. does anyone know how serious it is? I heard he needs surgery but I'm assuming his injury is serious and that his chances of making the cut has really reduced right now.
     
  14. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I think they said Mina is going to miss 2 months if I'm not wrong. He won't make it to the WC IMO. De Jesus might but he is really struggling right now. His misses are really bad but his team isn't any good either.

    About Mendez, I just don't think he has been playing consistently. He has played about 2-3 full games I think. I just think he shouldn't have been called this time. Other players that have been playing better should have had a chance to show what they got. We all know what Mendez offers when he is in full strength.

    Right now I'm happy that our offensive players are actually scoring and playing well. What worries me is the defense. If it was bad before, it's much worse now with Erazo not playing consistently. He needs to step it up big time. To me a big criticism of Rueda is not finding solid backups to CB position. We have good upcoming LB and RB positions but no solid CB at all.

    I would have love to have see Gruezo and that kid that is playing in Villareal B right now. He is scoring goals too. Both could be nice to bring up for friendlies and start thinking about the future with Corozo and Ramirez. Hopefully after the WC when Aguinaga takes over lol.
     
  15. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  16. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    i saw this last night on sport radio on ecuavisa. Marlon and Joao were supposed to be the two other players to complete the list of 23, that's why we have 21 for this game vs Australia.
     
  17. Luigi408

    Luigi408 Member

    May 16, 2010
    San Jose, Ca
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
  18. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
  19. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I want to see what aguinaga does with Loja first before he even lays a finger on this NT....so far so good (with Loja)
     
  20. Manolo

    Manolo Moderator
    Staff Member

    May 14, 1997
    Queens, NY
    Agreed...BUT we have to take into consideration that he was captain of the NT for many years and a legend and symbol of Ecua football. He is no stranger to the pressures and personalities he would be dealing with. Plus he's done miracles with Liga de Loja which is a team I never heard of until he took over.

    On the other hand, someone loke Rueda came in cold with ZERO knowledge of Ecua football, and has done basically nothing except select the same players from 4 years ago. And as Aguinaga is correctly asserting, he never experiments with anything, new players or new formations...until somebody DIED and he was forced to change because there was no backup plan.
     
  21. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    Paul Velez would like a word.
     
  22. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    If you were to ask me at this moment who I'd select between Paul Velez and Alex Aguinaga, I wouldn't think about it twice and i'd chose Velez. Paul Velez is the best ecuadorian coach at club level that we have. He was 1 goal away from having Loja eliminate Sao Paulo (the champions of the tournament) from the Copa Sudamericana in Octavos. Had Liga de Loja not scored an own goal against themselves in Loja, who knows how far Loja would have gone that time. Vizuete is the best at youth level and I still believe if he had the team Rueda had we would've made it to the WC too. Aguinaga is starting off a great season with Loja, a a limited team with not many players to choose from but he's giving opportunity to the youth- Johnny Uchuari, Robert Arboleda, Marco Miclota (Kaviedes' son), Dixon Arroyo, and a few others. That shows good signs, but he'll have to qualify to an international tournament and keep up the rhythm like Velez did for a while before he gets an applause. What Velez did with Loja to me was beyond impressive. Aguinaga still has a way to go, but he's on the right track.
     
  23. b9d23m89

    b9d23m89 Member

    Jun 27, 2004
    house on the hills
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    #723 b9d23m89, Mar 4, 2014
    Last edited: Mar 4, 2014
    I somewhat agree, but not completely. What I can say is that the ideal team of the Qualifier was the following:

    Dominguez; Paredes, Campos, Erazo, Walter; Valencia, Noboa, Castillo, Montero; Benitez, Caicedo

    Out of these 11 guys, there's not a single player on the bench even that would take their starting spot at any given moment (now or during the last 4 years). I bet you'd find a hard time telling me who was good enough to take any of these guys positions within the last 4 years up til now. If anything Rueda experimented a lot in positions where he needed to find the ideal player. Remember how many players were on the left wing? Michael Arroyo, then Cristian Suarez, Joao Rojas, Jefferson Montero. That's just to name players who played. Then Marcos Caicedo got called up even though he didn't play (b/c obviously he wasn't going to take Montero, Rojas, or anyones spot at this during the last qualifier) and now Rueda is calling up Fidel Martinez (which i'd agree with you, was a LATE call BEYOND over due). Up front it was Jaime and Chucho to begin with which was the best combo at the beginning of the Qualifier, Jaime got injured and Felipe came into the picture. Then Felipe and Chucho became the most ideal combo ever. You think anyone was going to take their spots? hell no. Mina got his minutes and even started a game vs. Bolivia and failed. Jaime never had the chance to fully come back. Marlon at the time wasn't ready and JL Anangono wasn't fully ready either. So who else would make it at that point? no one. Not a single soul was even close. And now we made Ener Valencia into a striker by force and he's slowly filling in the role although some people continue to criticize him.

    Let's move back to the midfield again- Antonio Valencia...who's going to take his spot? No one. But when he had to get replaced whenever he got suspended Renato Ibarra covered really well for him. So Rueda always had a plan B behind Valencia. The center mids- Castillo and Noboa. I think this is the one position where I'd agree with you that experiments with youth was an issue but at the same time this is the one position that was dry as ever with very little to choose from. There was Saritama, Alex Bolanos, Pedro Quinonez, and Oswaldo Minda who were the 4 players who got the most call ups behind Castillo and Noboa. Saritama overall i'd say did decently well. Pedro Quinonez did mehhh, ok but not as decent as Saritama. Oswaldo Minda same thing, maybe a little better than Pedro but not much. And Alex Bolanos played very little to even judge fully. The problem is that there were no young players READY to come in and play at this level.
    Just now, we are seeing Fernando Gaibor beginning to evolve into a complete player who is CONSISTENT (b/c he lacked that before just like Ener did at one point in time). We are just seeing Carlos Gruezo make a move to a top league and has an extremely bright future. The minute this kid takes the role of #5 on the NT, he will have it for the next 10 years or more without a problem b/c there's not as much competition for that spot right now. He plays his cards right and that spot is his, period. Jose Cevallos Jr. is on the come up and will definitely break into this squad next Qualifier. I can easily see Cevallos (Gaibor) - Gruezo being the mid duo for the NT. That means way more technical ability and vision with Cevallos than what Noboa has, and a bit more speed with Gruezo than what Castillo has. Gruezo may not be as huge as Castillo is but he's a strong kid that will probably continue to physically grow in Europe and he pressures a lot more than Castillo. I can already imagine Cevallos Jr. has put more weight on by now than when he left Liga. Anyway, there's people that will fill in this gap, the problem is out of the three players i named only 1 of them (Gaibor) is in his moment to be a part of a World Cup...at least in Rueda's eyes. IMO, I think Gruezo has the maturity to be on this squad too.

    Let's talk defense- Paredes, Campos, Erazo, Walter.....let's be real, no one was taking their spot. If anything Rueda DID have back ups in the first half of the Qualifier. Do you guys not remember Eduardo Morante when he was at his best moment? That one game vs. Peru where Morante came in for Erazo and it looked like Erazo had never left the game. I even remember Morante saving our asses in one play where Banguera was donzo and played out. Achilier coming into the Qualifier when Campos got injured. Achilier had screw ups at the end of the Qualifier, but in the first few games where he replaced Campos he did extremely well....it was later that he started to slip. So Campos and Erazo did have replacements...there was always a plan B. Paredes never really did have a REAL replacement besides Antonio... Walter had D. Calderon at one point and then Oscar Bagui behind him most of the Qualifier. Bagui isnt' amazing but he isn't horrible either. Es cumplidor and that's it, no more no less. But right now Rueda has been experimenting with Cristian Ramirez and he also called up Gabriel Corozo during the Qualifier although he hasn't given him minutes yet. So he's finding a back up for Paredes as well as the future replacement of Walter Ayovi. But at the moment it's not so easy for these young kids to just snatch those spots. Where we do have issues is the center back position. We have Achilier, Guagua, Erazo and no one else. This is where I actually do side with you and say WELL WHERE THE HELL IS JOHN NARVAEZ? Why can't we try out Andres Mendoza? This is actually out of NECESSITY, not just to try out players but we NEED a center back. So when you say there's no plan B with this position, I agree. Originally we had Campos, Achilier, Morante, and Erazo. and now we are left with Guagua, Achilier, and Erazo. Has Rueda not thought that one of those 3 can get injured in the WC?? So yes, this part does piss me off.

    As far as the keepers go Dominguez, Banguera, Bone....Rueda did a great job here.
     
  24. barcelonista1981

    May 16, 2007
    GUAYAQUIL
    Club:
    Barcelona Guayaquil
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    I agree with all of you, I said it before, Ecuador coach isnt a hard gig, It will always be a 4-4-2, use our flanks a lot, wether it being our wingers, (Montero, Valencia, Arroyo, Suarez etc) or our flank defenders like a few years ago (De La Cruz, Reasco, De Jesus, Walter Ayovi, Paredez so on and on) our team also depends on great discipline and top physical form and speed, we dont have to deal with changes with a line of 3 or 5 or trying to accomodate a player with the likes of Messi or Aguero and all of them, just as B9 said, WE ALL KNOW our starting line up. I can pretty much tell you that come June 15 our starting line up will be Dominguez, Hormiga, Achi, Erazo, Walter, Valencia, Noboa, Castillo, Jeff, Enner and Caicedo.

    I know some of you will think I'm nuts for saying this but I honestly believed for years that Bauza would be an amazing coach for us, he would bring many changes, he's a specialist with a line of 3 this will give us an opportunity to enforce our midfield, he knows how to take advantage of playing in Quito, and hes been the best away coach to ever step on Ecuador soil. just think in a few years something like this,

    --------------------------------------------------Dominguez---------------------------------------------------
    ---------------Achi(Canga)--------------------------------Erazo------------------------Corozo-----------------
    -------------------------------Gruezo------------------------Noboa (Gaibor)---------------------------------

    Valencia(Ibarra)--------------------------------------Cazarez (Gonzales)------------------------------Montero
    ------------------------------------------------------------Enner(Sornoza, Guerrero)-----------------
    -------------------------------------------Caicedo (Esterilla, Parrales)-------------------------------------------
    would be interesting no? dont quote name by name but just the concept, sure players like Paredez would be sacrificed, theres an interesting generation of players coming up in Ecuador, I just hope we have the coaches all around to polish them.

    Christian Ramirez,Carlos Gruezo, Joel Valencia, Miguel Parrales, Ayrton Preciado, Cevallos, David Velez, Juan Cazarez, Darwin Suarez, are all players getting brought up on international leagues so I hope they have a different mentality on futbol, these are all good players that if given chances they might give us a new quality of players we've never had,
    Now add the Luis Congo, Corozo, Ordonez, Jeison Dominguez, Henry Patta, Jonathan Gonzales, Sornoza, Edy Corozo, Elvis Patta, Esterilla, Penilla, are all players that look quite promising in our futbol, Vizuete is back as youth coach, Im sure most of these players will get called up by him regarding the u-20 tournament, these players led by Montero, Noboa, Caicedo, Ibarra, Erazo, Enner and Valencia, might make us quite strong in the next upcoming years, I'm not saying they all going to be stars, but if we get 2-3 world class players out of this group, I'll take it.
     
  25. \^the king^/

    \^the king^/ Member

    Jul 4, 2007
    wherevr da action @
    Club:
    Liga de Quito
    rojadirecta doesn't seem to have a link streaming this (Ecuador vs australia). ill look again. but anyone else have other options to view it online?
     

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