Primary and Minor Election Thread

Discussion in 'Elections' started by EvanJ, Jul 21, 2021.

  1. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    That absolutely describes my Republican counterpart on election day when I spent the morning handing out Democratic sample ballots. Had a great conversation with this young man--we even found a lot of common ground--and he was very open about his disdain for Trump and how hard it's been for him to remain a Republican these past few years.

    But...he's done so. And seems to have convinced himself that neither Youngkin nor the state party have anything to do with Trump and Trumpism now that Donny is no longer in the White House. Very myopic from my POV, but also helped me understand one reason the Republicans did so well here last week.
     
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  2. The Jitty Slitter

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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    This is really the main problem, because the true crazy and anti-democratic style behaviour is actually at state level.
     
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  3. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ghana


    The American press is atrocious!
     
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  4. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
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    DC United
    Voters in my town have approved a tax increase of $2.00 per $100,000 in home value to fund the local library.

    Goddamned socialists.
     
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  5. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    Were those county commission races? City Council?

    If so, the national media never covers that anyway.
     
  6. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
    Library. All you need is the Bible.
     
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  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    The Catholic Bible or the Protestant one?
     
  8. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    This is an interesting thread on the TMAC implosion

    Internal polling only had one significant move - the Afghanistan fiasco - which is basically when Biden started sinking, end of the hot joe summer vibe etc

    Problem was mainly about high GOP turnout.

    Tends to suggest a demotivated Dem base, typical for offyear election for incumbent party.

    CRT type tactics rile up GOP base. Countering that stuff doesn't necessarily help with getting out Dem voters in the burbs

     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
    Nat'l Team:
    Belgium
    This is also good

     
  10. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    Chicago Red Stars
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    He was a pretty decent governor for what I have read at least he was not pictured wearing black face like the current governor.

    The person running for lieutenant governor also lost, maybe she was a mediocre Latina.
     
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  11. Funkfoot

    Funkfoot Member+

    May 18, 2002
    New Orleans, LA
    He was running against a more mediocre white man.
     
  12. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
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    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Belgium
    Agreed.
     
  13. song219

    song219 BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 5, 2004
    La Norte
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    DC United
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    Vanuatu
    Ethiopic.
     
  14. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Josh Marshall wrote today that what Youngkin did was that he was able to get those Trump-loyal voters to turn out in high numbers without losing suburban/moderate GOP voters to McAuliffe.

    So it really wasn't the high GOP turnout. Trump's vote in 2020 was massive. IIRC, the GOP turnout in 2018 was average. It was that combined with keeping suburban GOPers on Youngkin's side that led to the win.
     
  15. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Keeping the suburbs was thanks to CRT and reading beloved.
     
  16. rslfanboy

    rslfanboy Member+

    Jul 24, 2007
    Section 26
    Mormon?
    Is Beloved in the Black Southern Baptist Bible? Should be, anyway.
     
  17. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
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    DC United
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    You know I work in VA and am here half the week, right?

    He kept the suburbs because he didn't lose the kind of suburban Republican/independent whom Trump turned off by being Trump, while boosting turnout with race baiting. Which is how he won the whole state. It's just that the mix of those two buckets of voters is different in the suburbs than in the rural areas.
     
  18. The Jitty Slitter

    The Jitty Slitter Moderator
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    Bayern München
    Germany
    Jul 23, 2004
    Fascist Hellscape
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    FC Sankt Pauli
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    Belgium
    Point is GOP turnout was higher than Dem

    Down on '20 of course, but Dem turnout was down a lot more
     
  19. Deadtigers

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    Jul 23, 2015
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    Manchester United FC
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    Ghana
    I didn't mean that like you weren't there or that CRT was real. I just meant that the reason he kept the suburbs was because he made those kinds of subtle racist issues prominent. He essentially went back to classic Republican of not saying the quiet parts out loud and that's all those suburban Republicans that left Trump wanted. Like they said on the new abnormal podcast he's just Donald Trump dressed as Jeb Bush and that seemed to work
     
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  20. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
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    So New York rejected expansion to voting rights.

    Weird, the shit Democrats want to do nationally, they can't even sell in New York.


    https://www.dailysignal.com/2021/11...s-reject-democrats-push-for-election-changes/

    https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/nov/09/new-york-voters-reject-ballot-measures-voting-access
     
  21. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
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    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I voted yes but you have to remember NYS is like 60-40 red and only by the grace of NYC is the state blue but not too long ago we had a red Senator.

    So this likely failed because republicans we're more energized to vote .
     
  22. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    I'm not sure.

    In local elections around here in rural NY, without any big issues or big personalities, in what was basically a straight party-line vote, the Dems increased their leads across the board.

    Maybe that's demographics or something else? I don't know.

    The wording of the referenda were so obtuse that it's possible that a sizable number of people just threw their shoulders toward the ceiling or missed the questions altogether because they were on the back of the ballot. There was, as far as I can tell, no guidance from either party on how people were suggested to vote. I'm not sure I'd read too much into it.
     
  23. bigredfutbol

    bigredfutbol Moderator
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    Sep 5, 2000
    Woodbridge, VA
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    DC United
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    United States
    Is it common to have campaign volunteers handing out sample ballots in NY? Not that that's a failproof method, of course.
     
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  24. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    Yes, the poll guy and me had a nice chat about the importance of voting. He then told me about the referendums or else I wouldn't know. I don't really have local tv or news so I don't really pay attention to stuff unless it's major.

    Q is right though, whoever wrote the things should be shot then drawn and quartered. It was like written by lawyers to make it as head scratching as possible. If it was in simple English, it would have done much better.
     
  25. Deadtigers

    Deadtigers Member+

    Jul 23, 2015
    Independent Republic of the Bronx, NY
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ghana
    I have seen it in NYC but not Buffalo area. Though the Buffalo mayor for his write in campaign was giving out rubber stamps with his name on it. And he won, too.
     

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