Preliminary EPL US TV Schedule

Discussion in 'TV, Satellite & Radio' started by Ed Ennui, Jul 9, 2007.

  1. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    You'll have to ask him to know for sure, but i imagine it sucked for him when the 12.45 BST match went from FSC to Setanta and the best 15.00 BST match went from FSC to Setanta and the Monday night match went from FSC to Setanta.

    Just a hunch. :cool:

    He never said anything about expecting ESPN/ESPN2/FSN to show Spurs v Arsenal, Liverpool v Chelsea.

    Please stop begging to have this discussion altered to a context of your choosing.
     
  2. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I believe that that is exactly what he said, that he expects the Golf Channel to carry the whole EPL.

    ;)
     
  3. rangers00

    rangers00 Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    or the alternative is for all these matches go PPV/package because FSC can't afford it. My hunch is as good as yours.

    Not to mention the 16:00 BST Sunday game went from PPV to FSC, and FSC also gets to show another live game at 15:00 BST Saturday (albeit 2nd choice).

    He doesn't have to, what else is he whining then? Let's examine his grudge against FSC, for

    "selling half of their games to a channel that is not available on cable."

    So his expectation would be:

    1) FSC keeping the entire package
    2) FSC selling half of their games to a channel that's available on cable.

    (1) has already been covered. (2) would have three possibiities:

    (a) if he lives in a dorm and only has analog cable, channels like FSC, GolTV, ESPN Deportes, etc. aren't likely to be in the lineup.

    (b) FSC selling the games to a channel available on cable but not a mainstream channel (e.g. GolTV, Versus, Golf channel).

    You may say "since he has FSC, then he must have GolTV". I say that's not necessarily true. But giving you the benefit of the doubt, maybe there is a slim chance that his package carries both FSC and GolTV. The reason FSC not likely to sell the rest of the Premiership package to GolTV is left as an exercise...

    (c) FSC selling the games to a channel available on cable and it's mainstream (e.g. ESPN, FSN, the networks, etc.)

    So what channels does he expect FSC to sell to that's on cable? If he has no clue about about the soccerTV business, he might have thought of GolTV. Of course, the only realistic alternative is the mainstream channels.
     
  4. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    The fact of the matter is, FSC's Premier League lineup got worse and that sucks for some people.
     
  5. rangers00

    rangers00 Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    Well, the Premiership and Setanta wouldn't have cared less...
     
  6. HDSports

    HDSports Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Golf Channel is owned by Comcast, so they would never shell out money for soccer, as they do not shell out for most things. Of course, they spent a fortune on the NHL contract, but that was with the hope (along with the Thursday NFL games they never got the rights to) of building a major national sports network. Based in Philadelphia, they thought everybody in the country must be wild about hockey. WRONG!!!
     
  7. Kryptonite

    Kryptonite BS XXV

    Apr 10, 1999
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It did. Do I really look forward to watching Blackburn and West Ham (or an equivalent match) when Manchester United and Liverpool (or an equivalent match) is on at the same time?

    Not really. But I realize I have options:

    1) Drive to the pub where I can keep tabs on multiple games at once (Setanta, FSC, Xtra.)

    2) Watch what FSC gives me.

    3) Listen to what Premiership Live gives me. Many times, it's the same game as what FSC is showing and it can be synched with the FSC video so I don't hear the FSC commentators at halftime and post-game.

    4) Watch college football (there are other options for TV viewing, ya know.) Many times, the noon ET game is downright dreadful and so college football wins out.
     
  8. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    In cases where subscribing to Setanta is not viable, the options are not as good as they used to be. Plain and simple.

    Who knew that this concept would be so difficult for some people to grasp. :eek:
     
  9. kstuart

    kstuart Member

    Jul 13, 1999
    Northern California
    I think this is a common, but unfortunate attitude that prevents people for appreciating soccer.

    For example, everyone agrees that the best match of last season was Spurs vs West Ham. Those who only watch "big teams" would have missed it.
     
  10. ncfcb

    ncfcb New Member

    May 29, 2007
    North Carolina
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I'm looking forward to matches from "smaller" clubs. That's why I worry about FSC having the Serie A rights...:rolleyes:
     
  11. dustcowpoke

    dustcowpoke Member

    Jan 7, 2006
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'm actually glad FSC is set up to show us the "B" matches because Aston Villa and Birmingham are crap so that means I get to watch them. :D
     
  12. rangers00

    rangers00 Member

    Jun 1, 2000
    So true, this concept is so difficult to grasp when you have a perspective of what options were available before.

    PPV.

    Not all cable systems carry the Saturday/Sunday games in PPV. For example, my Comcast in California didn't offer it in analog cable. Worse yet, even if your cable offers it, PPV gives you the thinking of "I don't like to be ripped off by $19.99 on a Tottenham X Boro game", so you would skip. Unlike Setanta that you have already committed the $15/month.

    So the success of the new arrangement should be measured by

    1) do the actual Premiership followers watch more or less Premiership games as compared to the prior arrangements?
    2) do cable subscribers watch more or less Premiership games as compared to the prior arrangements?
    3) do overall pay TV subs (cable, satellite, FiOS, etc.) watch more or less Premiership games as compare to the prior arrangements?

    My take

    1) more
    2) slightly less
    3) slightly more (given the discrepancies of cable and DBS subs)

    So yes, it sucks for some people, but TV is not meant to make every individual happy (the lowest common denominator). As long as it makes most people happy, that's good enough for TV as a business.
     
  13. DV1882

    DV1882 Member

    Dec 2, 2006
    Will there still be the othe channel Setanta Xtra games this season
     
  14. LeftBackYank

    LeftBackYank New Member

    Jan 11, 2007
    For the 2007-2008 through 2009-2010 seasons:

    In the U.S., FOX Sports International (FSI) and Setanta Sports
    North America will divide the EPL in the following manner:

    Saturdays at 7:45am ET: Setanta Sports USA

    Saturdays at 10am ET: Setanta Sports USA will have 1st choice,
    FOX Soccer Channel will have 2nd choice, Setanta Xtra will
    have 3rd choice, FOX Soccer Channel will have 4th choice (tape-delay)

    Saturdays at 12:15pm ET: FOX Soccer Channel

    Sundays at 8:30am ET or 9am ET: Setanta Sports USA

    Sundays at 10am ET or 11am ET: FOX Soccer Channel

    Mondays at 3pm ET: Setanta Sports USA

    Midweek: Setanta Sports USA will have 1st choice,
    FOX Soccer Channel will have 2nd choice, Setanta Xtra
    will have 3rd choice, FOX Soccer Channel will have 4th choice (tape-
    delay)




    This is awesome. 9 games over a weekend. Unless my math is sketchy, that's all but 2 teams every week. Simply killer.
     
  15. HDSports

    HDSports Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Actually, there will be more of a chance for a variety of Serie A matches on FSC including the smaller clubs. When Italian soccer was on GOLTV, they would show AC Milan, Inter, and Juventus (replaced with Roma last year with Juve in Serie B). If the big teams were playing at the same time, GOLTV would tape delay the other big team games or just show less Serie A that week.

    As for FSC, in addition to the 9 am Sunday game, which I am sure will be the 'biggest' game, they will show the 2:30 pm ET games live both on Saturday and Sunday, no matter what the matchup, plus I see on their schedule a delayed game on Saturday night, no doubt the 12:00 pm game from that day. GOLTV often ignored these games unless it was one of the big teams,so I'm sure lots of variety will be on tap this year.
     
  16. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Slightly sketchy. Last year, it was unusual to have both a early Sunday match and a Monday one. And there's not always an early Saturday or late Saturday match.
     
  17. BocaFan

    BocaFan Member+

    Aug 18, 2003
    Queens, NY
    Except when they play each other. Those matches will almost certainly be early kick-offs (on Setanta).
     
  18. kstuart

    kstuart Member

    Jul 13, 1999
    Northern California
    Actually, there should be all of those things every week.

    What happens is:

    - Weather postponements

    and

    - European league conflicts, leading to postponements

    and those postponements pile up, they cause other fixtures to move.
     
  19. drobny23

    drobny23 Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Contrary to what has been posted here, Setanta claims they have the Liverpool vs Aston Villa fixture 8/11/07.
     
  20. QPR Kevin H

    QPR Kevin H BigSoccer Supporter

    May 23, 2001
    Silver Spring, MD
    Club:
    Queens Park Rangers FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Ireland Republic
    I'm not sure where you got that info, but...LFC-AVFC is the 5:15 UK kickoff - it will be on Fox Soccer Channel live at 12:15 EST. Setanta's schedule on the first Saturday of the season will be...

    11th: Sunderland v Tottenham (kickoff 7:45am EST)
    11th: Bolton v Newcastle (kickoff 10am EST)
    11th: Wolves v Watford (Championship - 12:05 EST)

    Add a Setanta Extra match for Directv at 10am

    http://na.setanta.com/portal/systemcontent/broadband

    I'm guessing that you're confusing the UK Setanta match for the US Setanta. Not the same schedules. Hope that helps...
     
  21. MasterShake29

    MasterShake29 Member+

    Oct 28, 2001
    Jersey City, NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And sometimes there aren't matches scheduled in every time slot, for whatever reason (other events happening in England or whatever).
     
  22. drobny23

    drobny23 Member+

    Jun 18, 2007
    Nashville, TN
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
  23. HDSports

    HDSports Member

    Aug 30, 2005
    Here is FSC's first month of EPL coverage (times are ET):

    Saturday, August 11-
    10:00 am West Ham v. Manchester City (L)
    12:15 pm Aston Villa v. Liverpool (L)
    2:30 pm Derby v. Portsmouth (SDD)

    Sunday, August 12-
    11:00 am Manchester United v. Reading (L)

    Tuesday, August 14-
    2:30 pm Birmingham v. Sunderland (L)

    Wednesday, August 15-
    3:00 pm Reading v. Chelsea (L)
    5:00 pm Fulham v. Bolton (SDD)

    Saturday, August 18-
    10:00 am Tottenham v. Derby (L)
    12:15 pm Newcastle v. Aston Villa (L)
    2:30 pm Wigan v. Sunderland (SDD)

    Sunday, August 19-
    11:00 am Liverpool v. Chelsea (L)

    Saturday, August 25-
    10:00 am Arsenal v. Manchester City (L)
    12:15 pm Everton v. Blackburn (L)
    1:00 am Derby v. Birmingham (SDD)

    Sunday, August 26-
    11:00 am Manchester United v. Tottenham (L)

    Saturday, September 1-
    10:00 am Fulham v. Tottenham (L)
    12:15 pm Manchester United v. Sunderland (L)
    5:00 pm Blackburn v. Manchester City (SDD)

    Sunday, September 2-
    11:00 am Aston Villa v. Chelsea (L)

    From the FSC schedule, it is not hard to make an educated guess as to which games were selected by Setanta as 1st and 3rd choices for the Saturday 10 am game, as well as for the midweek contests.
     
  24. ncfcb

    ncfcb New Member

    May 29, 2007
    North Carolina
    Club:
    FC Bayern München
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have to say I'm really liking this schedule, nice mix of big and "small" matches with a nice variety.
     
  25. Amdrag

    Amdrag Member+

    Jun 10, 2007
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Three Man United games, including the Sunderland game? That is all I needed to know.
     

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