Predict how well Bayern will do in the Champions League..

he(a)rtha · Jul 12, 2005

Hi,

no, Makaay hadn't any problem scoring in the CL. It's quite the opposite.. I think he even lead the scoring table after the group stage. Then he got injured and was hurtly missed. Altogether he had 8 appearances and scored 7 times. In result I think there is no *!%R reason why this hoojdonk guy starts more often than makaay in the dutch national team!

jrod69 · Jul 12, 2005

Pizarro and Paolo = we doin real good this yr

Matschr · Jul 12, 2005

In the CL every big club is favorite because in the CL everthing can happen.

NUFCBayern · Jul 12, 2005

The_Special_One said:

Johnny come lately? lol nice one.
I am supporting a club that is a few miles away from where i was born and live, are u doing the same i wonder.

As to the Ballack issue, i was only kidding, like someone said, everyone dives every now and again. No biggie. But lets be honest here, the only reason the second leg was so close was cause after the second goal we were pretty much in cruise control. We could easily have gone all out and scored more goals if we needed too, so i dont think Makaay or Pizarro playing would have made that much of a difference, cause i am sure our defense would have coped.

But what interests me, is Bayern seem to have basically the same team as last season, and they werent able to get past us in the CL. So whats the main difference between this year and last that makes you guys so optimistic? Especially if you lose Ballack, will be a major blow for your chances of CL.
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1) Bayern have a revamped defense
2) Ballack isn't leaving

Dead Fingers · Jul 12, 2005

BayernWake said:

1) Bayern have a revamped defense
2) Ballack isn't leaving
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and just as important...an excellent DM....which was part of the problem with those games against Chelsea.

SirManchester · Jul 12, 2005

The_Special_One said:

Btw, anyone here have stats for Makay in the CL? Cause i know the guy is great in the Bundesliga, scoring hattricks week in week out. But he always seems to struggle with the Dutch team on the international scene. Does he have similar problem in CL?
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Makaay is king of the Champions League! Just in his last three seasons in the Champions League he scored 22 goals and two hattricks, one against Ajax and ironically, the other against Bayern.

DemmahoM · Jul 12, 2005

The_Special_One said:

I do think Chelsea should be the fav for the CL, simply because we have strengthened every one of our weak areas. Striker, we have Crespo, who is a great striker, especially when it comes to CL and Del horno, as left back, which is where Bayern caused us a lot of problems and we will also bring in Essien as an extra midfielder, even though honestly we dont need him.

But i am glad Bayern got Lahm, they were very weak in that position, and also a good cb to help Lucio, was desperately needed. Hopefully you guys will do much better next season.

Btw, anyone here have stats for Makay in the CL? Cause i know the guy is great in the Bundesliga, scoring hattricks week in week out. But he always seems to struggle with the Dutch team on the international scene. Does he have similar problem in CL?
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Defence: Lizarazu,Lahm,Sagnol,Demichilies,Ismael,Salihamidizic,Gorlitz,Rau.

Not bad.

Oh and Makaay's record in the CL (with Bayern) is: 13 goals in 16 matches..

Very impressive.

The_Special_One · Jul 12, 2005

For sure, didnt know his stats was that good.

But you guys mention not having a fit striker last season while you played Chelsea, but imagine what we could have accomplished if we had a better striker than Drogba. Sigh!!!!

scorpio81 · Jul 12, 2005

lol, drogba was the single most important factor in bayerns defeat to chelsea over the 2 legs...

now he says, "what if we had better players?". these chelsea fans, i tell you!

The_Special_One · Jul 12, 2005

Come on, as much as i love 'THE TANK', it is well known fact that he was probably the weak link in the Chelsea team. Sure he played well against Bayern, but no offense, even Kezman would have had a good time against your defense.

What can i say, us Chelsea fans seek perfection

scorpio81 · Jul 12, 2005

lol, actually except for being beaten in the air, our defense did pretty well against your lot...

correct me if im wrong, but aside from the two deflected goals which were going wide, EVERY single one of your goals came because we were beaten in the air...

so if it hadnt been for drogba, you guys would have been rather toothless!

so much for the theory about kezman doing well against us... next!