Possible that USOC winner no longer gets CCL bid?

Discussion in 'CONCACAF Champions Cup' started by Homebrew4U, Jul 7, 2010.

  1. It's called FOOTBALL

    LMX Clubs
    Mexico
    May 4, 2009
    Chitown
    A proper coefficient system uses the last 3 years without exemptions.
     
  2. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Proper in concacaf? :eek:

    Also, Asia uses a coefficient with Attendance and other type of stuff to come op with their slot allocation.

    I am sure concacaf would find a way to get American and Canadian teams into the CCL even if the game results were not there.

    Attendance wise Toronto and Seattle a helping the CCL attendance average, so I am sure Jack is pulling for Seattle to win the US Open cup.

    From a PC4th post


    "This is how AFC decides the allocation of Champions Leagues spot. Base on professionalism of their leagues.

    n 2008, the AFC compiled a so-called AFC Final Assessment Ranking to determine participation in their prime club tournament, the AFC Champions League, in 2009.

    This ranking, in which 500 points could be obtained, was compiled of 10 different criteria, as follows:

    Description Maximal Points

    1. Organisation 20
    2. Technical Standard 100
    3. Attendance 100
    4. Governance/Soundness 50
    5. Marketing/Promotion 20
    6. Business Scale 100
    7. Game Operation 20
    8. Media 20
    9. Stadia 20
    10. Clubs 50"

    https://www.bigsoccer.com/forum/showthread.php?t=861099&page=4

    Obviously results should be #1.
     
  3. onefineesq

    onefineesq Member+

    Sep 16, 2003
    Laurel, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And there you go. Giving the losing MLS Cup finalist a spot over the USOC winner is absolutely backwards. I could only hope that the league would not be that stupid, if the U.S. only got 3 spots.
     
  4. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    WTF :confused:

    Are you agreeing with Crew dude? It reads to me that you are not, but saying the same thing he just said, maybe I am just reading your post wrong. Sorry if that is the case.

    BTW, yes US Open Cup winner over loser of MLS Cup.
     
  5. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The wording is a bit confusing; but yes, they're agreeing.
     
  6. leeka

    leeka Member

    Feb 7, 2009
    Bayamón PR
    Club:
    Puerto Rico Islanders
    Nat'l Team:
    Puerto Rico
    This is why for me: the only way a D-2 can have a spot (in USA) its in the USOC if they win, but the truth its this is going a long and hard way to a D-2 do that, not only to beat an MLS team, besides achieve and winning the final. From Canada and Puerto Rico, we still have the chance to qualify the Concachampions. We have a great team (for me, one of the beast team from the Caribbean), and I hope we can still qualify to this tournament.
     
  7. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    More rumors and whispers (best I can do), but: in today's MLS Daily, Simon Borg specifically talked about the US Open Cup Final as being important because of "qualifying for the CONCACAF Champions League." He said it fast, so he may have just temporarily forgotten about the potential changes coming, but who knows...
     
  8. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    From the Seattle Times' preview of the US Open Cup Final:

     
  9. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Finally, a straight answer! Courtesy of @usopencup (the guys who run thecup.us):

    So for this year, that settles that. @ussopencup also explained that although, as we know, CONCACAF does reserve the right to declare certain teams ineligible to qualify for the CCL (e.g. only accepting first- and second-division teams from Canada), in the case of the US Open Cup...

     
  10. VioletCrown

    VioletCrown Member+

    FC Dallas
    United States
    Aug 30, 2000
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder what that means if the 'calculated' coefficient shows that the US should only get 3 teams. Not that I'm expecting that.
     

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