Portland Timbers PGE Park renovation

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by UPinSLC, Sep 21, 2010.

  1. Quick25

    Quick25 Member

    Nov 9, 2010
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Its looks like a neat stadium. Unfortunately clicking around the vitrual stadium it looks like obstructed views could be a big problem in a couple sections. Around the press box especially. Still looks very solid and one of a kind-ish.
     
  2. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Those seats aren't even made available to season ticket holders and I'd be shocked if they sold them at all, so there will always been a few empty seats in the stadium is my guess, even if it's sold out. Nobody wants to pay money for those and nobody wants to read an article in the paper about the fan experience of the team they own being "I couldn't see half the field"

    Oh, btw, that isn't the press box, those are the luxury suites.
     
  3. Omar

    Omar Hurrrrr....

    Nov 23, 2007
    Monterrey MEX
    Club:
    Club Tigres de la UANL
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico
    Go whine about structures somewhere else, a roof does amplify the sound of supporters!!!!ONE

    /runs
     
  4. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Mar 10, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    *Dons Tinfoil Hat*

    In reality, the Blazers, who are run by Vulcan, wanted to stall and destroy the Beavers' accommodation because Vulcan is a part of the Sounders ownership group and they really wanted to stick to the Timbers.
     
  5. Hierarchyfive

    Hierarchyfive Member

    Sep 17, 2005
    Portland
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    LOL :D

    It came down to guarding the development rights to the area around the Rose Garden, and more importantly the Memorial Coliseum site.
     
  6. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Mar 10, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. Hierarchyfive

    Hierarchyfive Member

    Sep 17, 2005
    Portland
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  8. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    the renovation of pge is the definition of a mixed bag.
    the new east and south structures are fine.
    the artificial surface, the 'bowling-alley' configuration of the field of play, and the obstructed views in the old grandstand are considerable headaches.
     
  9. UPinSLC

    UPinSLC Member+

    Jul 11, 2004
    SL,UT
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    headaches that could not be fixed no matter how you look at it. the obstructed views are an innate problem with PGE, the design of the luxury boxes and the placement of the goals makes it impossible to not have some obstructed views. same goes with the roof support pillars.

    im not really sure what you mean about "bowling-alley configuration", its an enclosed field with stands on all sides (south side being only a few rows due to the stage). if thats your definition of bowling alley configuration than most stadiums are the same way.

    the artificial surface is an evil necessity, born of the fact that the stadium is shared by football (which TEARS natural grass fields to shreads) and soccer as well as the fact that the stadium is below the water table/street level and drainage is an issue. everyone wants real grass, it just isnt feasible.
     
  10. ritsoccer86

    ritsoccer86 Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    PGE Park is going to be rockin. I'd rather take their stadium over some of the older SSS's that we now have in the league.

    Zoidberg is right, ANY sss is a good thing in America.
     
  11. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    yes, it couldn't be avoided, once it's decided that portland gets a franchise. i didn't mean it's anyone's fault in particular, just that these headaches could impact the new franchise a bit.
    'bowling-alley' refers to the narrowness of the playing field. we've discussed it at length previously, so rather than make another wooden restatement, i decided to be extremely witty and compare it to the width and shape of a bowling alley. :p
    some people think it's not much of an issue, and point out that similar configurations pop up even in some of the tinier, inner-city epl venues, for example. personally, i still think that if there's one thing that makes attractive soccer tough to do, it's lack of space. i can't stand small fields and am sorry to see a new one come into the league, just when kc finally makes the change for the better.
     
  12. The Marquis

    The Marquis Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 13, 2007
    Washougal, WA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Are you seriously bitching about a field with a width that is ok for FIFA tournaments? really? If it's good enough for Gold Cup and World Cup qualifying, it should be good enough, seriously. This shit ain't 65 yards. It's 2 yards, TWO less than many many fields. Most people on here are 2 yards tall, give or take. That barely changes the quality of play at all. 65, sure, 70? bullshit.
     
  13. holiday

    holiday Member+

    Oct 16, 2007
    no, i'm not 'seriously bitching.' it's not worth that. but you do get that width requirements are within a range, the lower end of which gives you a narrow field. after which, if when you're watching how a game is played your eyes don't tell you the difference, you can be happy as a pig in the mud. ;)
    this sentence is a masterpiece. :)
    (it's also a lot more than 'two yards less' than many many fields.)
    anyway, bitch on if you care to. without me.
     
  14. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    What are the dimensions?
     
  15. R.C.T.I.D.

    R.C.T.I.D. New Member

    Jul 22, 2010
    Portland, Oregon
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    110 x 70 yards.

    A typical pitch is between 110 to 120 by 72 to 78 yards, although most pitch widths are closer to 74 yards. As I'm sure you know.
     
  16. Daniel from Montréal

    Aug 4, 2000
    Montréal
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    110x70 yards = 101x64 meters

    FIFA WC standards are 105x68 meters = 115x74 yards

    So yeah, it is pretty narrow (2 yards less on each side), which is too bad when the pitch is brand new.
     
  17. ritsoccer86

    ritsoccer86 Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    Narrow pitch + soccer = ?
     
  18. Timber Fanatic

    Apr 22, 2005
    Portland Oregon
     
  19. ritsoccer86

    ritsoccer86 Member

    Jul 18, 2005
     
  20. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  21. abs1342

    abs1342 New Member

    Apr 9, 2008
    Edmonds WA
    Please advise of any errors:

    Qwest Field - 74yds x 114yds

    Starfire – 70yds x 110yds

    Rio Tinto – 90yds x 130yds

    Home Depot Center – 75yds x 120yds

    Dick’s Sporting Goods Park – 75? or 80? x 120yds

    BMO Field – 75yds x 115yds

    Toyota Park – 75yds x 120yds

    Buck Shaw Stadium - 71yds x 115yds

    Columbus – 75yds x 115yds

    Pizza Hut Park – 74yds x 117yds

    Red Bull Arena – 75yds x 120yds

    Gillette Stadium – 75yds x 115yds

    RFK Stadium – 72yds x 110yds

    Robertson Stadium – 70yds x 115yds

    PPL Park – 74yds x 120yds

    Community America Ballpark – 70yds x 110yds

    PGE Park – 70yds x 110yds

    Manchester City, City of Manchester Stadium, 116 x 77 yds
    Manchester United, Old Trafford, 116 x 76 yds
    Blackburn Rovers, Ewood Park, 115 x 76 yds
    Everton, Goodison Park, 112 x 78 yds
    Aston Villa, Villa Park, 114 x 75 yds
    Middlesbrough, Riverside, 114 x 75 yds
    Arsenal, Emirates Stadium, 114 x 74 yds
    Derby County, Pride Park, 114 x 74 yds
    Reading, Madjeski Stadium, 111 x 76 yds
    Sunderland, Stadium of Light, 114 x 74 yds
    Wigan Athletic, JJB Stadium, 114 x 74 yds
    Portsmouth, Fratton Park, 115 x 73 yds
    Chelsea, Stamford Bridge, 110 x 75 yds
    Fulham, Craven Cottage, 110 x 75 yds
    Liverpool, Anfield, 110 x 75 yds
    Birmingham City, St. Andrews, 110 x 74 yds
    Newcastle United, St. James’s Park, 110 x 73 yds
    Tottenham Hotspur, White Hart Lane, 110 x 73 yds
    Bolton Wanderers, Reebok Stadium, 110 x 72 yds
    West Ham United, Boleyn Ground, 110 x 70 yds
     
  22. The Devil's Architect

    Feb 10, 2000
    The American Steppe
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So why is that shit centered?
     
  23. Arisrules

    Arisrules Member

    Feb 19, 2000
    Washington, DC
    I"m surprised by how much negative responses this stadium is getting. I think it is going to be easily the most unique ground in MLS, and will be an absolute cauldron. Hopefully I can get out to Portland next summer and catch a game.
     
  24. ritsoccer86

    ritsoccer86 Member

    Jul 18, 2005
    It'll be so narrow that you could throw a tennis ball from your side of the stands to the other side of the stands.

    LOL
     
  25. steven nevets

    steven nevets Member

    May 7, 1999
    Portland
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It's centered to illustrate how narrow the pitch is going to be in PDX.

    Hope no West Ham United fans are reading....

    Portland Timbers, PGE Park – 70yds x 110yds

    West Ham, Boleyn Ground – 70yds x 110yds
     

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