This just occured to me...the major college football conferences nearly all fall neatly into "red" and "blue" camps, based on which states they include. Football Big East: Entirely blue (BE for other sports is blue except for Notre Dame) SEC, Big 12: Entirely red ACC: Nearly entirely red, only blue-state school is Maryland (and BC next year) Pac-10: Entirely blue except for Arizona and Arizona State The Big 10 is the only major conference with anything resembling an even split (7 blue-state schools, 4 red-state schools). It's even there in the minor conferences--Conference USA's only blue-state school is West Point (which is as red of a school as you're going to find anywhere in the country, regardless of where it's located), the MWC is entirely red except for San Diego State, same with the WAC save for Fresno State, San Jose State, and Hawaii. And the Sun Belt conference is entirely red as far as I know (I have no idea where Troy University is located). The MAC is about 50-50, tho. This doesn't mean anything at all, I just thought it was interesting.
And here I thought you were going to mention the self-discipline voluntarily imposed by Clemson and USC. Politcally, its certainly a contrast between "we screwed up and we'll make sure it doesn't happen again" and "Iranian dissidents are way more believable than Iraqi ones when it comes to nuclear program secrets"
College athletics in general are bastions of conservatism. You don't find too many hippies at Cal games.
How would you know? Unless you were one of the sad souls that actually went to a Bears game before Tedford's arrival. Man you must have been bored, and then lonely. Ah, for those glorious seasons when only a catastrophe postponed victory over a winless Rutgers would save Cal from an 0-11 record.
Wow, you had games worth going to? My Saturday afternoons (except for the Stanford game) were devoted to the more exciting "laugh at all the hippies" related activities.
Conferences are formed pretty much by region and proximity. Penn State is the biggest exception, and they've always been a Big Ten kinda football program anyway. I had a HS classmate who drove a Chevette. We referred to it as "The 'Vette" only in jest.
Well, we did lose to Stanford every year I was there, which annoyed. I remember when Troy Aikman's UCLA came up and pounded the crap out of us. Man, that was bad. Although yeah, apart from seeing no Big Game wins, I was a lot luckier than some classes.
Having left pretty recently, we only good good the last season when Tedford showed up. Man Holmoe sucked donkey balls. Then again, this was my second degree, so I shouldn't complain too much.
That's only because violent ground acquisition games such as football are in fact a crypto-fascist metaphor for nuclear war.
I remember that Cal and Rutgers played that year. Amazing Re: their turnaround. Who cares tho, when California had Jason Kidd, Lamond Murray and Shareef (sp?) Abdur-Rahim. Way better than BC has ever had in hoops. Just saying.
cause, you know, state college is so freaking far away from ann arbor and columbus. so we're willing to summise that those who work at or attend places of higher education supported kerry, by and large? maybe that IQ chart has some truth in it....
Here I go thinking that Tim Russert's kid will be walking on to the BC Football team as a kicker or something.
Kerry won among people with advanced degrees and high school dropouts. Bush won among everybody in between.
More threadjacking, but I remember when Kidd left Cal, and we were all baffled that he would leave before finishing his engineering degree. I mean, a Berkeley engineering degree - that's a pretty hot ticket! Maybe after this basketball thing ends, he can go finish his degree, and maybe have some kind of future. Or go back to beating his wife. (Prefers Kevin Johnson as Cal basketball role model)
You don't know hippies well Ian. They could never get organized enough to stage a rally.* *Phish shows excluded.
That's unfair - when I was at Berkeley they were easily roused to support the Ayatollah Khomeini. And when the moonies held a demonstration to show their love of America, that was sufficient to gather them into an irate mob throwing rocks.