Playoff Tiebreakers: Stop the Madness

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by The Perfesser, Oct 18, 2009.

  1. cthomer5000

    cthomer5000 Member+

    Apr 23, 2007
    Raleigh NC
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    1. This is a short-term problem, as 2009 may be the final time we have an uneven number of teams.

    2. Even in this situation, only Chicago would be at an advantage/disadvantage if they had played all this weekend's games at the same time. Every one else finishes their regular season this weekend.

    3. I guess the league probably could have 'guessed' at a team to stick in this slot who was among the least likely to make the playoffs. However, if you did that by any measurable method (last year's last place team.... perhaps this year's expansion team) you would have only guessed very wrong with Los Angeles or Seattle.
     
  2. RerunStubs

    RerunStubs Member

    Dec 8, 2006
    Thanks. I need to learn how to read.
     
  3. Mucky

    Mucky Member+

    Mar 30, 2009
    Manchester England
    Club:
    Manchester United FC
    Thanks. missed that. :eek:
     
  4. edwardgr

    edwardgr Moderator
    Staff Member

    Mar 6, 2006
    Seattle
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but it does not help with this seasons muddled mess any. Chicago at least made things a little clearer last night.
     
  5. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can anyone tell me what the brackets look like today at this time, before the last games are played? In otherwords, Columbus overall #1 in the whole league, who would they play? The #8 team in the whole league or someone in the east. Same with LAG currently #1 in west. I heard we could play Seattle, yet they are only 1 pt behind us... Why don't we get to play a lower seed like Colorado or TFC if they make it...
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    This is where single table without relation to geography would be helpfull. If you finish #8, you know good and well you are going up against #1 etc...
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    Would also give travelling fans a little (very little) chance to plan..
     
  6. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Before kickoffs tonight:

    Columbus - Colorado
    Chicago - Toronto
    LA - Seattle
    Houston - Chivas

    #5 In the West (Colorado), being the lowest Western team to qualify slides over to fill the gap in the East since there is no #4 Eastern team. By MLS rule any team changing conferences becomes the lowest seed int he new conference, so even though Colorado has more points than Toronto they're the #4 and TFC is the #3.
     
  7. canammj

    canammj Member+

    Aug 25, 2004
    CHINO, CA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This sucks:mad: LAG should be playing Colorado or TFC
    Who cares if the east is weak this year..
    I am sure the league can' t be happy either.. they obviously want SEA in the final for crowd and or LAG for that becks-donovan appeal..
    If Columbus were to loose in the first round, anyway poss for a SEA-LAG final?
    How are the semi's set up? who plays who out of the QTR finals
     
  8. ChefJim27

    ChefJim27 Member

    Feb 9, 2008
    Five minutes until the kickoff of the most significant regular season finale in MLS history. Just for a laugh, I'd love to see what the brackets would end up like if we simply had #1 vs #8 and so on...
     
  9. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    East vs. West. So one of Houston, Chivas, LA, and Seattle will face one of Columbus, Chicago, and the two remaining wild cards to be determined in the final.
     
  10. The Perfesser

    The Perfesser New Member

    May 23, 1999
    AthensGA/NewburyptMA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If we had 1 vs 8 and so on, AND the tiebreakers defined by GD and then Goals Scored, we would have had almost exactly the same results that we have now:

    1) Columbus - 8) RSL
    2) Houston - 7) Revs
    3) Galaxy - 6) Chivas
    4) Seattle - 5) Chicago

    So, switch Seattle with Chicago, and it's the same matchups.

    Even more interesting, is that all the craziness with the MLS tiebreaking procedures could have been accomplished with Goal Difference and Goals Scored instead of going through all of that crap.
    Code:
                                        GP   W   D   L    GD   G+   G-   Pts
    
          1. Columbus Crew              30  13  10   7   +10   41 - 31   49
          2. Houston Dynamo             30  13   9   8   +10   39 - 29   48
          3. Los Angeles Galaxy         30  12  12   6    +5   36 - 31   48
          4. Seattle Sounders           30  12  11   7    +9   38 - 29   47
          5. Chicago Fire               30  11  12   7    +5   39 - 34   45
          6. Chivas USA                 30  13   6  11    +3   34 - 31   45
          7. New England Revolution     30  11   9  10    -4   33 - 37   42
          8. Real Salt Lake             30  11   7  12    +8   43 - 35   40
             --------------------------------------------------------------
          9. Colorado Rapids            30  10  10  10    +4   42 - 38   40
         10. DC United                  30   9  13   8    -1   43 - 44   40
         11. FC Dallas                  30  11   6  13    +3   50 - 47   39
         12. Toronto FC                 30  10   9  11    -9   37 - 46   39
         13. Kansas City Wizards        30   8   9  13    -9   33 - 42   33
         14. San Jose Earthquakes       30   7   9  14   -14   36 - 50   30
         15. New York Red Bulls         30   5   6  19   -20   27 - 47   21
     
  11. henryo

    henryo Member+

    Jun 26, 2007
    Second, the only difference was Houston would have won the West & finished 2nd overall ahead of L.A.
     

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