Placar Rankings Brazilian League

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  1. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1974, was played between march 09 and august 01.
    Ratings for players were from 3 to 10.
    Teams at First Phase played 19 matches. Those qualified to Second Phase played 24 matches, and Finalists played 27/28 matches.

    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1974 (Final rankings)
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    Not rated: (few matches)
    Leao, Nelinho, Forlán, Ancheta, Perfumo, Carlos Alberto, Luis Pereira, Piazza, Marinho Chagas, Clodoaldo, Carpeggiani, Ademir, Rivelino, Rocha, Leivinha, Fischer, Dirceu Guimaraes, Edu.
     
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  2. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #102 msioux75, May 21, 2021
    Last edited: May 21, 2021
    Brasilerao 1974 (Unnoficial Best XI)
    ---------------------- Joel Mendes
    Louro ----- Figueroa ----- Amaral ----- Vladimir
    ------ Mario Sergio ---- Dudu ----- Zico
    Osni ------- Jorge Mendonça ----------- Lula

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1974, I include (Amaral x Miguel; J.Mendonça x Luisinho)
    Bola de Ouro - Zico

    5 stars (1) - Zico.
    4 stars (2) - Figueroa, Joel Mendes.
    3 stars (7) - Mario Sergio, Miguel, Cejas, Amaral, Louro, Andrada, Dudu.
    2 stars (23) - Altevir, Lulinha, Valdir Peres, Ze Luiz, Tobias, Cantareli, Jairo, Valter, Pedro Basilio, Vladimir, Flamarion, Chicao, Natalio, Adaozinho, Dirceu Lopes, Hamilton Melo, Sicupira, Ze Roberto, Jorge Mendonça, Luisinho Lemos, André, Lula, Romeu.
     
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  3. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #103 msioux75, May 24, 2021
    Last edited: May 24, 2021
    Brasilerao 1970-74

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    Formula = Summation of number of times * weight
    weight (5 stars = 4 points; 4 stars = 3p; 3 stars = 2p; 2 stars = 1p; Not Rated = 0.5p, due to BP Rules)


    Top-10:
    1) Figueroa - 8.0 points (3 years)
    2) Ademir - 8.0
    3) Rivelino - 7.5
    4) Dirceu Lopes - 7.5
    5) Andrada - 7.5
    6) Paulo César Lima - 7.0
    7) Luis Pereira - 6.0
    8) Cejas - 6.0
    9) Ancheta - 5.5
    10) Tostao - 4.0 points (3 years)
    Pelé - hors concurs (not rated 71-74)


    Team A:
    -------------------- Andrada
    sp --- L.Pereira --- Figueroa --- Marinho Chagas
    ------------ Piazza --------- Ademir
    sp --- Tostao --- Rivelino --- Paulo César Lima

    Team B:
    -------------------------- Cejas
    Louro ----- Ancheta ----- F.Reyes ----- Everaldo
    -------- Ze Carlos ---------------------- P.Rocha
    Jairzinho --- Ze Roberto --- Dirceu Lopes --- Mario Sergio
     
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  4. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Best players from 1972's Brasileirão, according to the newspaper "O Estado de São Paulo":
    Best player: Ademir da Guia (Palmeiras - SP)
    Revelation: Marinho Chagas (Botafogo - RJ)

    Team of the tournament:
    -------------------------- Leão
    ---------------- Figueroa - Beto
    Eurico/Zé Maria ------------- Marinho Chagas
    ------------------ Edson - Ademir da Guia
    Valdomiro - P.Rocha - Dario/Jairzinho - Edu
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  5. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Best players from 1971's Brasileirão, according to Telê Santana (Atlético Mineiro's coach and champion of that year):
    Best player: Gérson (São Paulo - SP)
    Revelation: Antônio Carlos (America FC - RJ)

    Team of the tournament:
    ----------------------- Sergio
    ---------------- Perfumo - Vantuir
    Humberto M. ----------------------- Oldair
    ------------- Vanderlei - Gerson
    A. Carlos - Jairzinho - Rivelino - Loivo
     
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  6. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    #106 ManiacButcher, Apr 21, 2022
    Last edited: Apr 21, 2022
    Here is an article reporting that Ademir da Guia was the best player from 1963' São Paulo State Tournament (Paulistão) and also considered by the São Paulo State press the best player of the year 1963. Source: Revista do Esporte - RJ

    Best players of the year 1965, according to "Revista do Esporte - RJ":
    Rio de Janeiro State: Altair (LB CB) - Fluminense.
    São Paulo State: Dudu (DH) - Palmeiras
    Minas Gerais: Tostão (AM) - Cruzeiro (Local Press)
     
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  7. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Best players from 1970' season, according to "Jornal dos Sports - RJ":
    Team A (world champions)
    ----------------------- Félix
    ---------------- Brito ---- Piazza
    C. Alberto ----------------------- Everaldo
    ------------- Clodoaldo - Gerson
    Jairzinho - Tostão - Pelé - Rivellino

    Team B
    ---------------------- Leão
    ----------- Baldochi --- Reyes
    Eurico ------------------------------- M. Antônio
    ------------- Zanata - Ademir da Guia
    Vaguinho - Claudiomiro - Silva - P. Cesar

    Best players from São Paulo State - 1970, according to the Paulista (from São Paulo) Football Federation. Source "Jornal dos Sports - RJ":
    ---------------------- Leão
    ----------- Baldochi --- Luis Carlos
    Eurico ------------------------------- Dé
    ------------- Dudu - Ademir da Guia
    Edu Bala - Toninho G. - Pelé - Aladim

    Best players from São Paulo State - 1974, according to the Paulista (SP) Press. Source: "Jornal dos Sports - RJ":
    ---------------------- Leão
    ----------- L. Pereira --- Amaral
    Zé Maria ------------------------- Wladimir
    --------- Flamarion - Ademir da Guia
    Terto --- Leivinha --- Geraldo --- Ziza
     
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  8. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Best players from 1978' Season, according to "Manchete Esportiva" - RJ":
    ------------------------- Leão
    Zé Maria ---- Oscar ---- Amaral ---- Miranda
    ----- Falcão ---- Carpeggiani ---- Zenon
    Palhinha ----------- Careca ----------- Zico
     
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  9. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    São Paulo State Tournament (Paulistão) 1959' best XI, according to "Revista do Esporte - RJ":
    ------------------ Rosa
    ---------- Formiga - Olavo
    Djalma Santos ----- Geraldo
    ------------------ Zito
    ---- Chinezinho -- Pelé
    Julinho ------------------- Pepe
    ------------- Servilio

    São Paulo State Tournament (Paulistão) 1960' best XI, according to "Revista do Esporte - RJ":
    ------------------ Valdir
    ---------- Ditão - Oreco
    Djalma Santos ----- Juths
    ------------------ Zito
    ---- Chinezinho -- Pelé
    Faustino ------------------- Pepe
    ------------- Sílvio

    Rio de Janeiro State Tournament (Carioca) 1960' best XI, according to "Revista do Esporte - RJ":
    ------------- Castilho
    ------- Djalma D. - Jadir
    Paulinho ------ Altair
    --------------- Amaro
    ---------- Didi -- Quarentinha
    Maurinho ---------------- Nilo
    ---------------- Waldo

    Rio de Janeiro State Tournament (Carioca) 1965' best XI, according to "Revista do Esporte - RJ":
    ------------- Manga
    ------- Brito - Altair
    Murilo ------------- P. Henrique
    ----- Jaime - Joaquinzinho
    P. Borges ---------------- Rodrigues
    ---------- Silva - Parada
     
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  10. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #110 msioux75, May 10, 2022
    Last edited: May 10, 2022
    I can't see images, anymore. So, I'll uploade again.

    1970 ranking from 15th round
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    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1970
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    1970 Ideal Team

    --------------------- Picasso
    Humberto --- Brito --- Reyes --- Everaldo
    ---------- Zanata ------------ Dirceu L
    Vaguinho --- Tostao --- Pelé --- Paulo Cesar

    Only change from Placar: Pelé x Samarone
     
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  11. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Final 1971 ranking
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    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1971
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    1971 Ideal Team

    -------------------------- Andrada
    Humberto --- Roberto R. --- Vantuir --- Carlindo
    ---------- Vanderlei ------------------- Dirceu L
    Antonio Carlos ----- Tiao ----- Rivelino ----- Edu

    Change from Placar: Roberto Rebouças x Pescuma
     
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  12. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1972 Ranking previous to last round
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    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1972

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    1972 Ideal Team
    --------------------------- Leao
    Aranha --- Ancheta --- Figueroa --- F.Marinho
    ------------ Piazza ----------------------- Ademir
    Valdomiro --- Ze Roberto --- Leivinha --- Paulo Cesar

    Instead Bola de Prata 1972, I include (Ancheta x Beto; Valdomiro x Osni, Leivinha x Alberi)
     
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  13. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1973 ranking previous to last round
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    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1973 (Final rankings)
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    1973 Ideal Team

    --------------------------- Cejas
    Ze María --- Ancheta --- L.Pereira --- F.Marinho
    ------ P.Rocha ---- Chicao --- Dirceu Lopes
    Zequinha ------- Mirandinha ----------- Mario Sergio

    Instead Bola de Prata 1973, I include (L.Pereira x Alfredo; Chicao x Pedro Omar)
     
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  14. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    1974 Brasilerao rankings
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    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1974
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    Brasilerao 1974 Ideal Team

    ---------------------- Joel Mendes
    Louro ----- Figueroa ----- Amaral ----- Vladimir
    ------ Mario Sergio ---- Dudu ----- Zico
    Osni ------- Jorge Mendonça ----------- Lula

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1974, I include (Amaral x Miguel; J.Mendonça x Luisinho)
     
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  15. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Resume revised with additions to Placar.

    Brasilerao 1970-74
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    Top-10:
    1) Rivelino - 13 points
    2) Ademir - 12
    3) Figueroa (Chi) - 11
    4) Dirceu Lopes - 11
    5) Cejas (Arg) - 11
    6) Andrada (Arg) - 11
    7) Luis Pereira - 10
    8) Paulo César Caju - 9
    9) Leao - 8
    10) Tostao, Ancheta, Ze Carlos - 7
    Otros: Jairzinho, Marinho, Pelé, Piazza - 6

    Team A:
    ----------------------------- Cejas
    C.Alberto --- L.Pereira --- Figueroa --- Marinho Chagas
    ---------- Piazza ------------------- Ademir da Guia
    Jairzinho --- Tostao --- Rivelino --- Paulo César Caju

    Team B:
    -------------------------- Andrada
    Ze María ----- Ancheta ----- F.Reyes ----- Everaldo
    -------- Ze Carlos ------------------------ P.Rocha
    A.Carlos --- Ze Roberto --- Dirceu Lopes --- Edu
     
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  16. ManiacButcher

    ManiacButcher Member

    Palmeiras
    Argentina
    May 23, 2004
    Brasil
    Club:
    Palmeiras Sao Paulo
    Nat'l Team:
    Brazil
    Hey msioux75, Jorge Mendonça from Náutico and Zé Roberto from Coritiba were attacking mids (ponta de lança - spearheads - Second strikers), something more like Zico or Pelé.
    Did you improvised them based on the low quality of CFs??
     
  17. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Hi Maniac, I see this in the Placar lists:

    - Ze Roberto; 72, 74 labeled as Ponta de Lança. For Brasilerao 1973 as CF, and Braulio as PL. So, I take CF as his secondary role. My next option for B-team (1st half 1970s) was Leivinha, also Ponta de Lança (1st) / Centreforward (2nd). The next in line, was Darío Maravilha.

    - Jorge Mendonça; 74 labeled as CF for Placar, and Paraguaio as Ponta Lança in Nautico. In next seasons in Botafogo, I have Mendonça as PL.


    Btw, in my ideal teams, when difference between players is minimal, I decided any of them could get the place.
    For example, Ze Carlos (7 points) in B-team, meanwhile Piazza (6) in A-team, being Ze Carlos a bit higher rated than Piazza.
    In season's team, something similar. Also taking players in his secondary role to improve line ups.
     
  18. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1975

    It was played between Aug 20 and Dec 14, consisting in three phases, plus Semifinal and Final matches. So, depending which phase, every 42 club reached, they had a different number of games.

    This is Placar ranking, missing Final match.
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  19. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    #119 msioux75, May 13, 2022
    Last edited: May 13, 2022
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1975
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    I don't count players from teams eliminated at First Phase (Bahia, Santos, Fortaleza, Comercial, CSA, etc.)

    Other players:
    LULINHA - GK - Fortaleza - 8.06
    GOLE - CM - Comercial - 7.56
    ZE PRETA - CB - CSA - 7.33
    NELSON - LB - Guarani - 7.00
    PEDRO OMAR - DM - Nautico - 6.99
    VLADIMIR - LB - Corinthians - 6.95
    J.MENDONҪA - MP - Nautico - 6.95
    P.ROCHA - MP - S.Paulo - 6.90
    PIAZZA - DM - Cruzeiro - 6.7
    CLODOALDO - DM - Santos - 6.63
    R.DINAMITE - CF - Vasco - 6.54


    Stars not rated:
    E.Andrada, Carlos Alberto, Oscar, Marinho Chagas, Junior, T.Cerezo, Dirceu Lopes, N.Doval, Socrates, Dirceu Guimaraes, Edu, Paulo Cesar Caju.



    Brasilerao 1975 Ideal Team
    ---------------------- Valdir Peres
    Nelinho ----- Figueroa ----- Amaral ----- Marco Antonio
    ---- PC.Carpegiani ---- Falcao ----- Zico
    Gil --------------- Palhinha ----------------------- Ziza
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  20. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
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  21. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1976
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    I don't count players from teams eliminated at Second Phase (Botafogo, Santos, Sao Paulo, Cruzeiro, etc.)

    Other players:
    R.AGUILERA - GK - Botafogo/SP - 7.20
    ZE MARÍA - RB - Corinthians - 7.18
    O.ORTIZ - LW - Gremio - 7.17
    PEDRINHO - LB - Santa Cruz - 7.12
    ENEAS - MP - Portuguesa - 7.12
    JUNIOR - LB - Flamengo - 7.05
    EDU Coimbra - MP - Bahia - 7.00
    DIRCEU Guimaraes - LW - Fluminense - 6.8
    JORGE MENDONҪA - MP - Palmeiras - 6.85


    Stars not rated:
    E.Andrada, Raul, Nelinho, Oscar, Marinho Chagas, Piazza, Clodoaldo, Falcao, Carpegiani, Dirceu Lopes, P.Rocha, Rivelino, Edu.



    Brasilerao 1976 Ideal Team
    ---------------------------- Manga
    Perivaldo ----- Figueroa ----- Beto ----- Vladimir
    ------ T.Cerezo ------ Caçapava ----- Zico
    Valdomiro -------------- Doval ------------------- Lula

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1976, I include (Caçapava x Paulo César; Zico x Paulo Isidoro)
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  22. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Brasilerao 1977

    It was played between Oct 15 and Mar 05 (next year), consisting in three phases, plus Semifinal and Final matches. 62 clubs played the tournament, but only were considered players from clubs qualifying to third phase.

    This is Placar ranking, missing Final matches.
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  23. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1977
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    I don't count players from teams eliminated at Second Phase (Internacional, Fluminense, Guarani, etc.)

    Other players:
    C.ADAO - CF - Flamengo - 7.1
    J.MENDONҪA - MP - Palmeiras - 7.1
    RODRIGUES NETO - LB - Botafogo - 7.1
    JUNIOR - LB - Flamengo - 7.1
    NELINHO - RB - Cruzeiro - 6.9
    SOCRATES - MP - Botafogo - 6.8
    R.DINAMITE - CF - Vasco - 6.7


    Stars not rated:
    Manga, Ancheta, Edinho, Marinho Chagas, Piazza, Clodoaldo, Batista, Falcao, D.Pereyra, Ademir, Dirceu Lopes, P.Rocha, Rivelino, P.Isidoro, N.Doval, Dirceu Guimaraes.



    Brasilerao 1977 Ideal Team
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    Ze María ----- Oscar ----- Polozzi ----- Marco Antonio
    ---------- Adilio ---------T.Cerezo ------ Zico
    Tarciso ------------- Reinaldo ------------- Paulo Cesar
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  24. msioux75

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    Lima, Peru
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  25. msioux75

    msioux75 Member+

    Jan 8, 2006
    Lima, Peru
    Top 50 players - Brasilerao 1978
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    I don't count players from teams eliminated at Second Phase (Atlético Mineiro, Villa Nova-GO, etc.)

    Other players:
    BEZERRA - CB - Sao Paulo - 7.13
    TONINHO Catar. - CF - Palmeiras - 7.13
    PASTORIL - CM - Goias - 7.13
    JUNIOR - LB - Flamengo - 7.00
    CARECA - CF - Guaraní - 6.97
    MARCO ANTONIO - LB - Vasco - 6.96
    P.ROCHA - MP - Coritiba - 6.75


    Stars not rated:
    Leao, Nelinho, Ancheta, Oscar, Edinho, Marinho Chagas, Clodoaldo, Batista, T.Cerezo, D.Pereyra, Rivelino, Paulo Isidoro, Zico, Socrates, Roberto Dinamite, Reinaldo, Paulo Cesar Caju.



    Brasilerao 1978 Ideal Team
    ---------------------------- Manga
    Rosemiro ----- Rondineli ----- Deodoro ----- Odirlei
    ------- Falcao ----- Caçapava ---- Carpegiani
    Tarciso --------------- Paulinho ------------- Joaozinho

    Changes in Bola de Prata 1978, I include (Carpegiani x Adilio; Joaozinho x Jesum).
     
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