Pirlo Out? At What Point? The Manager Thread...

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  1. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    So there are a lot of rumors in Italy now that Pirlo might not even last the season. One even has him being let go within weeks and Tudor taking over until the summer when a permanent replacement will be named.

    A couple weeks ago it was safe to say that Pirlo would be here until June, today that's another story.
     
  2. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    One name that's being bandied about is Roberto Mancini, some reports that Juve could tap him to take over.
     
  3. SF19

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    Jun 8, 2013
    Mancini would be interesting. I always felt Deschamps would do well as manager of a club like Juventus. He has history there as a player, plus he had a lot of success at Monaco and then with France.
     
  4. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    Deschamps was already a manager at Juve, when they were in Serie B. There was some friction with management at the time so he left.
     
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  5. scirea6

    scirea6 Member+

    Sep 20, 2007
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    I'm totally opposed to sacking a manager, any manager, before the end of the season. Period. I didn't even call for Sarri to be sacked before the end of the competitive year.

    I don't care who the replacement is. it only serves to make an unstable situation more volatile.
     
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  6. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    There is no point in sacking Pirlo before the end of the season. Let him finish up and then evaluate where we are at that point.

    Maybe all of this will finally light a fire under this group. Max or Conte would be taking strips out of most of the squad if they were in charge. Perhaps Pirlo's personality won't permit that. Most footballers are not as cerebral about the game as he is.
     
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  7. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
    Upstate NY
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    Juventus FC
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    United States
    In an interview today with DAZN, Nedved said that Pirlo will remain on as coach.

    Reminder that Agnelli, Paratici, and Nedved also told the media that Allegri and Sarri would remain as the Juve coach so don't take what they say at face value.
     
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  8. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    If there is a collapse all bets are off.

    Including the troika.
     
  9. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    San Jose Earthquakes
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    Italy
    Pirlo watch. Judgement day is up. They are saying now he is gone if he loses to Toro or Napoli. Lippi or Allegri have been mentioned as caretaker's.
     
  10. Dante

    Dante Moderator
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    Nov 19, 1998
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    What I've read is that Lippi could be brought in as a technical director to help guide Pirlo, not replace him.
     
  11. falvo

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    Mar 27, 2005
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    Correct. That was the story a few days ago but now I read this...
     
  12. falvo

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    Mar 27, 2005
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    Correct. Tudor would take over was the story a few days ago and now I read this....

    A less inviting theory would be Lippi or Allegri....

    https://it.sports.yahoo.com/notizie/pirlo-rischio-se-floppa-con-082036031.html
     
  13. IcEWoLF

    IcEWoLF Member+

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    Jul 15, 2014
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    Let’s hope he gets removed at the end of the season.
     
  14. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Fabio Capello was handed AC Milan in 1991 replacing Sacchi but at least he had some experience as primavera and then a caretaker coach at Milan. He retained all of the players Arrigo built and he replaced Ancelotti with a young Albertini and signed goalkeeper Sebastiano Rossi. Milan with a a defense of Baresi, Costacurta/Galli Maldini and Tassotti were solid.

    Capello was handed a great team but Pirlo inherited a team in transition. I feel bad for Pirlo because as one and done , its not really his fault. I mean he has no experience and was thrown into the fire and should never been appointed.
     
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  15. dean smith

    dean smith Member

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    Jan 17, 2021
    I feel for Pirlo but after the last 2 games have lost faith in him paratici and the squad. Massive changes ahead
     
  16. falvo

    falvo Member+

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    Yeah he is in over his head but sooner or later, Juventus will have relinquished their run. I mean no one wins ten scudetti in a row!

    Also Pirlo has absolutely no experience even in coaching youth teams so forget about being thrown to the wolves to a team like Juve. He should have stayed with the U23’s for a few years because this way he is one and done and I doubt the team will keep him around after they replace him.
     
  17. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    If we are going to sack Pirlo and bring in Tudor, that makes zero sense to me. I fail to see how that would assure us a CL spot.

    So either keep him and let him sink or fall on his own efforts or replace him with someone who could make a difference.

    Here is the speculation. We aren't getting Gasp or S Inzaghi during the season. Mad Max could come back now but that would require replacing the Bobsey Twins. Not sure that can be done that quickly as summer transfers will be on soon.

    The rest on this list, no thanks:

    https://www.football-italia.net/168745/who-could-replace-pirlo-juventus
     
  18. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
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    Honestly, considering Pirlo has or had absolutely no coaching experience and in analyzing it ,the coach has been Tudor all along.

    Andrea may be there in name only but I think Tudor is mostly involved in tactics and training and Pirlo in the lineup but either way, they are in the same boat.
     
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  19. usnroach

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    Jul 5, 2009
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    United States
    That is a good point, I don't see Pirlo ever interacting with his staff during the game. He just stands there with his arms crossed and will shout a thing or two at the players throughout. It is weird to me that I don't see him going to his staff and talking about things? Maybe he is one of those people like Van Gaal who doesn't believe that in-game adjustments work?
     
  20. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    Italy
    This is what they say about Tudor:

     
  21. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I have probably been more critical of Allegri than anyone else here--but we're being nuts if we think he's coming back as some sort of stop-gap until we find a more suitable replacement. He is too good and too well-respected for that. If you don't intend on offering him the permanent position, don't bother.
     
  22. juveeer

    juveeer Member+

    Aug 3, 2006
    He wouldn't do that.

    if he comes back, he is back. And that means the 2 that got him fired in the first place will most likely be gone instead.
     
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  23. juveeer

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  24. falvo

    falvo Member+

    Mar 27, 2005
    San Jose & Florence
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    Italy
    Isn’t it cool when dormant threads are revived?
     
  25. gumbacicc

    gumbacicc Member+

    Dec 7, 2004
    USA
    I would struggle with this decision if I were management as well. Pirlo clearly hasn't convinced, but when I look at this side, he's about fourth or fifth on the list of things that are wrong with the club. How does the management sack the manager when they are more to blame for our woes than Pirlo is?
     

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