Pelé all official games

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    The table

    Season 1957

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    #56 Trachta10, Apr 2, 2021
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    In June 10 2018 an user called FUTBOLPRO95 edited the wiki webpage of Pelé and added this info

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    Is a mistery if this numbers are real or fake, as you can see he put 26 assists and I counted 17, but I think I found something..

    There are only two games that don't have detailed description of the goals

    15/08/1957 Santos 8 - Guarani 1
    25/09/1957 Santos 9 - Ypiranga SP 1

    vs Guarani Pelé scored 4 goals
    vs Ypiranga Pelé scored 3 goals and there was also an own goal

    So this means that Pelé could have made an assist in 4 goals in the first match and an assist in 5 goals in the second match.
    There are 9 goals that we don´t know if Pelé made an assist or not

    17+9= 26

    My idea is that this person, seeing that there were 9 goals that had no description, decided to consider them as an assist

    So this means that table could be real

    I on the other hand think that a better estimate would be 3 assists in those 9 goals.
    So my estimate is

    17+3=20
     
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    #57 Tropeiro, Apr 2, 2021
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    Discuss about the first goal here, your source says it was from Dorval, Claudio Pinho (played the game) think the goal was from Pagão and Pelé doesn't touch the ball before the line, and at the time Pelé offically scored the first goal.

    Video of the goal here (4:00):



    For me it seems, it was Pelé who scored the goal.
     
  8. Tropeiro

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    It is just a hypothesis, maybe he had some other sources with some other figures or maybe he counted assists in other season like shot on post, rebounds, PK won, FK won etc. Better thing is you enter in the contact of FUTBOLPRO95 to know it better.

    I still haven't check your work, but it seems to be evolving quickly, especially with this Gazeta Esportiva that seems to be good.
     
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    Yeah it seems Pelé in that goal

    I tried to contact FUTBOLPRO95 but not receive an answer, he seems to be banned in wikipedia, something interesting is that he is who put the assists in a lot of players in the spanish wiki, including Maradona, Romário, Batistuta, Ronaldo, Shevchenko, and a lot of chilean players

    https://es.wikipedia.org/w/index.ph...BOLPRO95&offset=&limit=500&target=FUTBOLPRO95

    The Gazeta Esportiva (SP) is the best source, the big problem is that this web only has data until 1958, after that I have to use Jornal dos Sports (RJ) which goes to 1959, and then I have nothing
     
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    my mistake Jornal dos Sports goes to 2009, but from what i've seen Gazeta Esportiva is much better
     
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    47-

    9- 16/07/1958


    Campeonato Paulista

    Santos 7 - Jabaquara 3

    Lineup:
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    36 m 1-0 Pelé pass from Dorval
    40 m 2-0 Dorval pass from Fioti
    50 m 3-0 Dorval pass from Pelé
    62 m 4-1 Dorval pass from Pagão
    74 m 5-1 Ramiro pass from Pelé
    75 m 6-1 Dorval pass from Pepe
    85 m 7-2 Pelé pass from Dorval

    Summary:

    90 minutes
    2 goals
    2 assists

    Source

    http://memoria.bn.br/DocReader/DocReader.aspx?bib=104140&Pesq=pele&pagfis=16489
     
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    The 2nd goal is pretty sick. Great timing.
     
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