Paul Arriola at Swansea City (on loan from DC United)

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  1. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paul came on as a sub for Edgar Castillo in the 65th minute of Xolos' 1-2 loss to Morelia.

    Literally a few seconds after coming on, Arriola nutmegged his defender and sent in a perfect cross with his left foot to assist on a Fidel Martinez goal.

    A few minutes later, he found himself open in the box and skied a shot that he should have put in the back of the net. He showed the willingness to take defenders on every time he had the ball at his feet but his small frame saw him get pushed off the ball fairly easily. He wasted possession in the attacking third a few times but was very active during his stint. You can see that he's still rough around the edges but has a ton of talent and plays with a lot of confidence.

    Overall, I was impressed. There's not many 18 year olds getting minutes in Liga MX so the fact that his coach trusts him enough to play him so soon after signing him speaks to his talent. That assist was extremely impressive.
     
  2. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  3. stonejh127

    stonejh127 Member+

    Sep 9, 2011
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeh that assist really was awesome!
     
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  4. Chance

    Chance Member+

    Minnesota United FC
    United States
    Apr 5, 2012
    Minneapolis, Minnesota
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    This dude is really talented and is yet another reason to make Xolos my Mexican team. Also correct me if I'm wrong, but Paul represented the USA at a youth level before he was eligible for Mexico, thus making him cap-tied to the US, correct?
     
  5. FlipsLikeAPancake

    Jul 6, 2010
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No. Once you represent a team, you can't switch to any country you weren't a citizen of at the time. He didn't just become a Mexican citizen, he was always eligible; he merely confirmed it by getting his Mexican passport.

    To think of it another way: do you think Fabian Johnson had a US passport when he was representing Germany at the youth level? I doubt it.
     
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  6. bshredder

    bshredder BigSoccer Supporter

    Feb 23, 1999
    Club:
    Millwall FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He could technically switch but I'd seriously doubt it. His connections with Mexico aren't that strong. The last person to be born in Mexico in his ancestry was his grandfather or great grandfather. Paul is living at home in the US while playing for TJ
     
  7. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly, I mean not trying to profile BUT Paul has blue eyes and almost blonde hair. His connection to Mexico is very limited.
     
  8. El Niño Orgulloso

    Jul 5, 2009
    Houston, TX
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    He lives in Mexico, that's not a limited connection.
     
  9. mike4066

    mike4066 Member+

    Jun 30, 2007
    Chula Vista, CA
    Club:
    Fulham FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    He lives in Chula Vista which, even though it might be filled with people of Mexican decent, is still in the US.
     
  10. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He doesn't have a reason to wanna play for Mexico.
     
  11. Testudo

    Testudo Member+

    Jan 29, 1999
    Arlington, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    American Exports: Paul Arriola grabs assist in Club Tijuana loss

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    "Young forward Paul Arriolaagain made his mark in just his second appearance for Club Tijuana, setting up the team’s only goal in their 2-1 loss at Morelia in the Liga MX on Saturday.
    Arriola – one of four Americans to feature for Xolos – entered the field in the 63rd minute and just one minute later assisted his team’s lone strike.
    The Chula Vista, Calif., native received the ball by the corner flag, tunneled the ball through José María Cárdenas’ legs, switched onto his left foot and whipped in a perfect left-footed cross for Ecuadorian Fidel Martínez to tap in."
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/artic...xports-paul-arriola-grabs-assist-tijuana-loss
     
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  12. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The paranoia begins.
     
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  13. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    lol...because having blue eyes and "almost" blonde hair excludes a person from being Mexican, which happens to be a nationality and not a race...you make me embarrassed to be an American.
     
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  14. comoesa

    comoesa Member+

    Aug 13, 2010
    Christen Press's armpit
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    I don't really get the point of his post but he was just saying that Arriola does not look like a typical Mexican citizen in his opinion. Nothing about having blue eyes or blonde hair excluding one from being Mexican.

    You took it a bit too far.
     
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  15. Sanchito

    Sanchito Member+

    Jul 15, 2005
    an island in my mind
    Uh no I didn't....what does a typical American look like?...if a tourist visited New Orleans he would think the typical American was black...Miami, Latino...etc....Americans' only frame of reference is the immigrant community that comes from Mexico to the U.S....that's about it....Mexico is a melting pot...the post is embarrassing...and is the reason many people around the world think we are collectively ignorant...
     
  16. Pl@ymaker

    Pl@ymaker Member+

    Feb 8, 2010
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What the hell are you guys talking about?? Arriola is a White Hispanic with a Mexican heritage but the only reason why he'd ever play for them is if we rejected him and Mexico wanted him.

    THE END
     
  17. jakepc42

    jakepc42 Member+

    Mar 26, 2011
    Houston
    Club:
    Houston Dynamo
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    the only embarrassing thing is your failure to recognize that he intended nothing remotely racist by his post. If you thought it was slightly offensive, you could alert him without being 100% condescending and arrogant. His point was Arriola looks American. Its funny because most mexicans would tell you Jose Torres looks American which is why they call him Gringo Torres.
     
  18. GoingGoaling

    GoingGoaling Member

    Jul 12, 2010
    Atlanta
    Wow. We should save this post in a time capsule so that future life forms know why our species died out.
     
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  19. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Just the typical Big Soccer paranoia.

    When/If Alejandro Guido or Stevie Rodriguez break thru to the Tijuana first team, we'll have the same discussion.
     
  20. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly, I certainly didn't mean anything offensive by it. It's pretty obvious that I meant no one would assume Paul was of Mexican heritage unless he told them he was.

    Obviously there are Mexican citizens with blonde hair and blue eyes, our very own Yank Abroad William Paul Yarbrough comes to mind. For Yarbrough, no one in Mexico thinks he is Mexican. He says in an interview on his page that everyone assumes he's of German or American heritage.

    I feel ridiculous even having to justify my comments on this because I'm cut from the same cloth as Paul: My great grandmother was Mexican (she passed when I was 8) but I too have blue eyes and light brown hair.

    So yes, given my own racial background and posting history on this site I think it's absolutely absurd for me to even have to explain my intent on the topic.
     
  21. MPNumber9

    MPNumber9 Member+

    Oct 10, 2010
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Whatever the point was, it still came off as ignorant. You can see blonde haired/blue eyes Mexicans on Univision.
    Why? You posted something kind of ignorant. Your racial background did not inform you in this case, so I don't see how it can be used to justify your original and inaccurate post. I don't think you intended to be racist (and I don't think it was) but the poster's reply was hardly unfair. As your own story indicates, you can't tell if someone's Mexican (or American, for that matter) because they have blonde hair.
     
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  22. Mario Balotelli

    Mario Balotelli Member+

    United States
    Feb 28, 2012
    Club:
    Manchester City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Less talk of racial makeup and more talk about how nice it is to see a '95 getting significant minutes in Liga MX so soon after signing.

    This is especially impressive was initially signed to be part of their u20 team. Meanwhile Daniel Cuevas who's almost two years older has only been playing 20 minute substitute stints for Santos Laguna's u20 team.

    I can see why the Galaxy were upset about losing Arriola.
     
  23. Tom Collingsworth

    Jun 14, 2011
    North Carolina
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Fair enough, I apologize for getting this thread off topic and for any offense I may have caused.

    Now as Mario said let's focus back to the excitement that we should feel to have a '95 getting first team minutes in Liga MX.
     
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  24. Mr. P Mosh

    Mr. P Mosh Member+

    Aug 10, 2009
    Monterrey, NL, Mex
    Nat'l Team:
    Mexico

    The difference is that William is really, really pale (his skin is so fair his face looks red most the time), so he actually stands out. Paul Arriola (and Jose Torres for that matter) looks more like a random castizo you would meet in the Northwest, Monterrey, Guadalajara or the upper classes in the central Mexico.

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    Anyways, I agree he had practically little to non connection to Mexico before signing with Tijuana, but it's because of his background, not because of his physical features. And I doubt we call him to any of our NTs.
     
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