Parallel Players

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  1. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Post similar players and describe what they have in common below:
     
  2. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Ramón Villaverde and Hugo Sotil

    Both South Americans wanted by Barcelona.
    Both all-round inside forwards being played somewhat out of position on the flank @ Barcelona.
    Both scoring just under 0.3 goals per game @ Barcelona.
     
  3. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Wout Holverda and Wilhelm van Lent

    Both Dutch.
    Both referred to as striker and left winger.
    Both physical players.
    Both uncapped.
     
  4. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Kenny Dalglish and Enzo Francescoli

    Dalglish is the European Francescoli.
     
  5. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Miralem Pjanic and Juninho Pernambucano

    Pjanic = Juninho without the leadership skills.
     
  6. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    G. Batistuta and G. Riva

    Batistuta is a right-footed version of Riva but prefers to dive instead of dribble.
     
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  7. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Pjanic is a lesser Juninho, with less freekicks, dribbles, leadership, goals.
     
  8. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Prati and CR7
    Prati has very similar strengths and playing style to late career CR7.
    Prati = PR7
     
  9. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Daley Blind and Danny Blind
    Daley is the left footed version of his father.
     
  10. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Puskas and Ziyech
    Ziyech is the low concentration version of Puskas.
     
  11. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Not saying they were identical but similar in style
    Aguero/romario
    Messi/zico
    neymar/dejan savecivic
    Oleh Blokhin/thierry henry
    Enzo francescoli/matt li tissier
    Baggio/rivaldo
    Shevchenco/lewandowski
    Scholes/hoddle
    Zidane/prosinecki
    Rui costa/xavi
    Kroos/stefan effenberg
    Gerd muller/RVN
    Maradona/ariel ortega
    Baresi/VVD
    Arjen Robben/zoltan czibor
    Johan Cruyff/meazza

    To be continued
     
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  12. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    I see the similarities at least in terms of positional sense (with his fair share of big game goals too)
    Call it a coincidence but his son also a footballer is named Cristiano
    http://www.magliarossonera.it/protagonisti/Gioc-Prati.html
     
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  13. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Bobby Murdoch and Xavi Hernández
    Both metronomes with equal levels of positioning, concentration, passing, shooting, feints and defending.
    Xavi is more focused on maintaining possession and Murdoch is more about moving forward.
     
  14. leadleader

    leadleader Member+

    Aug 19, 2009
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Zidane/Prosinecki is an excellent find, probably more similar even than Zidane/Iniesta.
     
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  15. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Repped for the thought and effort.

    Just for fun, I've tried to get even closer to identical in style using my football knowledge/memory bank (hard in some of the cases I think anyway, and I wouldn't think you'd agree on every choice):

    So maybe...
    Vialli for Aguero, and G.Muller (see below) for Romario (I'm doubting these are closer to identical already on the first line haha!).

    Futre for Messi (in style: particularly being a left sided dribbler, not in ability), and Susic for Zico

    Rodney Marsh for Neymar, and Maradona (see below) for Savicevic

    Signori for Blokhin, and Ronaldo (R9) for Henry

    Del Piero for Francescoli, and Osgood for Le Tissier (I'm doubting these are closer too!)

    Florian Albert for Baggio (maybe I can think of a better one later - their stature is not similar and style just vaguely so I think), and Hagi for Rivaldo (not particularly similar either overall I think, but in effect with the skills and long shots there is some similarity at least)

    Weah for Shevchenko, and Ove Kindvall for Lewandowski

    Pedro Rocha for Scholes, and Antognoni for Hoddle

    Lars Bohinen for Zidane, and Netzer for Prosinecki (again, not sure these are closer and maybe I can think of better; Bohinen could arguably fit Hoddle better)

    Giannini for Rui Costa, and Deyna for Xavi

    Xabi Alonso for Kroos, and Roy Keane for Effenberg (doubtful it's more similar again for me)

    Romario for Muller (see above), and Crespo for RVN

    Savicevic (see above) for Maradona, and Sekularec for Ortega

    Kolo Toure for Baresi (this is probably not close but unless I am having a mind-blank very hard to pick someone!!), and Paul McGrath for VVD

    Bale for Robben (you might question and I'd understand that for sure!), and Skoglund for Czibor

    Michael Laudrup for Cruyff, and it's a pit of a punt but maybe one of the Baggio/Albert compo for Meazza (or a hybrid between them would work better?!)

    Ok, that's what came to mind at first attempt anyway! Maybe harder than I thought at first glance by the time I finished it!
     
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  16. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    After a bit more of a think maybe I'd change things to put Stan Collymore with Henry, Bohinen with Hoddle as suggested, Boban with Zidane (or maybe a Boban/Dragan Stojkovic hybrid?!), and I'll suggest Sandro Mazzola for Meazza instead!
     
  17. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Actually, since I paired Maradona-Savicevic, and Romario-Muller in my post, and neither of the pairings are 'perfect' matches in terms of style of play and attributes (but do have some similarities) then probably I could just do the same with Roberto Baggio and Zico (having still not come up with a better match for Baggio).

    Zico and Susic, who were a bit similar in some ways playing wise too, would also be more likely to be mistaken for each other though, being much more alike in terms of appearance and stature, and running style probably too.
     
  18. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Maybe I could have said Rivelino for Rivaldo now I think about it: not sure but maybe that is better.

    Like with Baggio, probably I thought it shouldn't be so hard to think of 'lesser' players that would have a similar style to Rivaldo, but then I didn't really think of anyone who really did or does!
     
  19. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Rivaldo is a unique player that is hard to compare.
    My best guess is Recoba.
    Both had flair, both left footers, both were forwards who lost their footspeed early on, both capable of dribbling the entire midfield, both scored longshots and freekicks, both had limited vision.
     
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  20. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Yes, true, and probably they retain more similarity in play style than my proposed Baggio/Albert duo, despite the different body type (also applicable to Baggio/Albert of course).

    For Baggio/Albert I did feel they had these things in common: being able to and liking to glide past opponents with the ball on the approach to the penalty area, being fond of and being very good at rounding goalkeepers too, using team-mates runs well by finding them with accurate forward passes, preferring not to wait for the ball into the box but to receive it with enough time and/or space to do something special (maybe this is also a reason Carlito put Baggio and Rivaldo together initially; not to say Baggio wasn't good with first time volleys...and I've seen similar from Albert.... or Rivaldo with acrobatic finishes from crosses at times).

    But yeah, I do think overall Baggio and Zico is probably a closer comparison in style/attributes.
     
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  21. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Dont know if its been said previously but Lionel Messi in 08/09 and 09/10 reminded me of a faster version of Baggio
    There is a clip of baggio watching messi play against arsenal 2010 and being completely blown away by what he saw

    Guardiola seemed to get a bit emotional when he introduced il divino to messi which is natural of course
    Especially when every real lover of the sport knows they were robbed of seeing one of the greatest talents ever reaching the heights that he definitely couldve of

    @annoyedbyneedoflogin Im not sure about rivelino having limited vision (maybe Rivaldo and baggio who weren't playmakers/true AMs even though being pretty grand at picking final balls)

    I never saw rivelino make the wrong option (as rivaldo routinely did)
    Even if he didn't attempt the outrageously difficult pass as Ronaldinho his decision making was better and passing more consistent(this is strictly based on select matches from WC 70 and few match comps on youtube
    Maybe youve seen more?)
     
  22. PDG1978

    PDG1978 Member+

    Mar 8, 2009
    Club:
    Nottingham Forest FC
    Maybe yeah. I could see in some ways why presumably older Messi was paired with Zico by you, as like you said you weren't aiming for perfectly identical players. Probably a younger version of Messi is the most suitable for my Futre comparison.

    I think annoyed said that about Rivaldo and Recoba, not Rivelino actually mate. I don't know whether Rivelino might have been seen as over-elaborate at times, in terms of one reason to question his decision making. But his elaborate skills were what made him the player he was I suppose in a lot of ways.
     
  23. annoyedbyneedoflogin

    Jun 11, 2012
    Rivaldo and Recoba had limited vision.
    Baggio had great vision.
    Rivelino had a limited engine, if I'm to criticize him.
     
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  24. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    If He did mean that than I hope he doesn't get annoyed :whistling:

    Rivaldo was an extremely effective player with as much substance as style
    His bad decision making was borne out of ball hogging and not spreading the ball when he shouldve.
    Overall yes I think his deficiencies were made up for by his WC end product
     
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  25. carlito86

    carlito86 Member+

    Jan 11, 2016
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Id have to see evidence of this great vision being used consistently by baggio (relative to rivaldo of course)

    Ive been reviewing some matches of baggio in the 1992/93 uefa cup and he seemed to me at least to be a player who played one outstanding long ball and kept it "safe" with short passes for the rest of the game
    I never saw evidence of him demonstrating such great vision over any long enough period even though there are rare examples of him looking like the perfect 10 (parma 1994/1995)

    There are too examples of rivaldo looking like a perfect 10 but not enough
    These two were more forwards and even their managers did not trust them to be playmakers (saachi played robby as a forward in 94 to great effect and rivaldo despite the great assist vs Holland and game vs Denmark was otherwise not that good when he was an AM in WC 1998)

    Van gaal too did not trust rivaldo as a AM
     

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