I understand that this discussion isn't specifically about Bill Gates, the argument that he created jobs doesn't hold water. His business model has been to use size, not market forces or innovations as the primary tool. Microsoft has grown by either muscling out or buying out the competition, often those that provide better and/or more popular products. So in essence, the net effect of Microsoft's growth has been nil or negative. I get your argument. It's just that Gates is a horrible example to make your point.