PBP: P01135809 Trump Espionage, Coup, Conspiracy, Racketeering, Fraud & Obstruction Trial Thread

Discussion in 'Politics & Current Events' started by The Jitty Slitter, Jun 10, 2023.

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What will be the outcome?

  1. Guilty

  2. Not guilty

  3. Pardons himself

  4. Goes into exile in Snowden's flat

  5. Some other fascism

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  1. Potowmack

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    I thought we were talking about close to half a billion?
     
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  2. Smurfquake

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    I mistyped the amount as "half a million" in my SPAC post but went back and stealth edited it. Half a billion is correct.
     
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  3. Deadtigers

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    Yes it's half a billion. billion with a B. I don't know why I said million. Probably cause I mentally thought Billion sounded to high. Anyway the point still stands. He was convicted of lying on the documents used to approve a loan, so who is gonna loan him money.
     
  4. Sounders78

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    The Saudi Bank of Arabia, the Bank of Moscow on the Hudson ...
     
  5. The Jitty Slitter

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    so it looks bad not having the hearing until april. sigh.

    this means the trial cant happen until the summer/fall

    lol
     
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  6. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    Let’s face the reality now folks, the Courts will not save us. The November Elections are are the ultimate test of our resolve to save democracy and human rights in the US and beyond.

    PS. ******** Robert’s and his minions in the courts.
     
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  7. The Jitty Slitter

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    Weissmann thinks we may not see a trial before the election now
     
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  8. diablodelsol

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    Would now be a time for Biden to issue a statement stating that if the next congress puts a bill on his desk to expand the Supreme Court….he’d sign it?
     
  9. The Jitty Slitter

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    It's interesting most commentators thought that the SC would take the case but expedited and not screw the trial

    How naive everyone still is
     
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  10. charlie15

    charlie15 Member+

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    That was the general consensus among SC observers/ legal analysts etc. I bought it as well.
    That was naive indeed. I can now magine a Leonard Leo behind the scene calling his puppets in the court and instructing them to delay....
     
  11. Sounders78

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    This.

    People keep wanting to behave as if the system is still functioning as it should. It has been corrupted and destabilized. It is why people should not be overconfident about the election. Sure, under normal circumstances things will go well. But normal circumstances no longer exist.
     
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  12. diablodelsol

    diablodelsol Member+

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    I’m not convinced they’re receiving directions. They’re independently this awful and corrupt.
     
  13. The Jitty Slitter

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    Agreed

    I get why they took the case, as it is a very big issue they are bound to want to weigh in on - but to significantly delay the trial over an open and shut issue is bizarre.
     
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  14. MattR

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    Well, it appears the SEC has approved the sale of truth social

    "The filing, which disclosed new information about the business of Truth Social parent Trump Media & Technology Group, was greenlighted by the SEC, allowing Digital World to set a vote for its shareholders to back and complete the merger.

    Digital World shares rose 16% to $50.49 in afternoon trading in New York on Thursday. At this stock price, and assuming no Digital World shareholders exercised the right to redeem their shares, the combined company would be worth about $10 billion and Trump would own a 58.1% stake worth about $4 billion."

    https://www.reuters.com/markets/dea...way-merger-with-trumps-media-firm-2024-02-15/

    If you think the stock market is ill-informed - Truth Social has a worth of $10 billion with 500k active users.
     
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  15. MattR

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    Oh, and I've always said that the Republicans are "all in" on election interference is a thing because they are doing it.

    I suspect that Trump will "win bigly" and the Democrats will have all sorts of proof of election fraud and it won't matter because public opinion on the Republican side will be all about "shuttup sore losers."
     
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  16. Q*bert Jones III

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    How much is BigSoccer worth?
     
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  17. diablodelsol

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    Not bizarre at all. It’s good political strategy. They’ll eventually rule against him…so there is no real risk to their power in the event Trump wins. Staying the existing trials and sentencing is a no brainer if he wins. They wouldn’t have to rule on Trumps eventual self pardon for years….assuming they ever do…as the next republican administration after Trump would simply pardon him anyway making the self pardon issue moot. And if it’s a Dem president…there is 99% chance that the party of political own goals will nominate an AG that would want to “move forward “ and not litigate or reopen the cases closed by the previous AG. And even if they did…trumps utility would be zero for them at that point.

    Plus…they’d have the pardon ruling hanging over trumps head to ensure he nominates the correct replacements for retiring justices.

    It’s a no lose political strategy for them.
     
  18. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Right. they know "what to do"
     
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  19. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    With or without P&CE?
     
  20. rslfanboy

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    @dark knight. :D
     
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  21. soccernutter

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    This was my though immediately hearing that SCOTUS was taking it up. Granted, I was following the legal people and thinking they would reject, but, alas...
     
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  22. superdave

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    That’s a good point. Is this place worth a million dollars? I doubt it.
     
  23. soccernutter

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    Listened to both Serious Trouble and a special Lawfare on the GA trial, and both had Fleishman (sp?). He might be good on the technicals, but he needs to stop commenting on how Willis lives/performs. He is such a White elitist. He was so dismissive of her that I'm going to stop paying attention to him.
     
  24. soccernutter

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    The owner is a recluse, likely living the life similar to Howard Hughes. This place must be worth trillions.
     
  25. Funkfoot

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    I remember reading (it's been a while, so no link) that besides the huge debt he took on to build the casino, he greatly overestimated the number of people who would visit and gamble. I guess he figured all he had to do was put his name on it (which would be true today, now that he is a messiah). So they never made enough money to cover the mortgage and that's why Dad had to go buy shitloads of chips and never cash them in.
     
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