... before Taylor and Ramage are paired in central defense. The following "borrowed" from Alan Oliver's article in The Chronicle on Oct. 18 concerning the UEFA Cup tie with the Turkish club... Certainly it will be no surprise to see Steven Taylor back at the heart of the heart defence, while Carr and Ramage will be at full-back with Roeder reluctant to drop Charles N'Zogbia back to left-back. Roeder, who himself was a more than accomplished central defender, believes that the heart of the defence is "an old man's position". But in an ideal world he would love to give his young local boys Taylor and Ramage the chance to form a central defensive partnership, but he just has not had this chance. The way Bumble has played, Roeder might as well not wait.