One-Time Switches In/Out of USA Setup

Discussion in 'USA Men' started by BostonRed, May 16, 2013.

  1. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He was more influential with the U17 than Reyna. I saw some quality in the kid.
    I hope he makes the right decision.
     
  2. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Sure. I did too. I like him. I have no reason not to like him.
    But he wasn't going to be with our U23s or USMNT in the immediate future.
    So if playing internationally immediately is important to him, then Honduras is the way to go.

    This is what the USMNT does to our dual-national prospects like Musah, Weah, Oasowie, etc. etc. etc. They weren't in the reckoning for the other senior national teams they were eligible for. So we swooped in early and aggressively.

    El Salvador, Honduras, Haiti, and the rest of CONCACAF are going to do the same to us. Heck, Chile was trying to do that in order to grab Soto.
     
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  3. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Nico Gioacchini is another.

    Soto may still go to Chile if he senses he has no chance to make our senior 23.
    Maybe a U23 invite may keep him with us for another year.
     
  4. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isaac Angking, who had caps in the 2018 Concacaf U20 WC qualifying, has now had 2 caps with Puerto Rico and is called up for Olympic qualifying.

    Add him to the "Out" column.
     
  5. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Update:

    IN
    Tyler Boyd
    Teal Bunbury
    Edgar Castillo
    Jesse Gonzalez
    Julian Green
    Aron Johannsson
    Fabian Johnson
    Jermaine Jones
    Edwin Lara
    Aaron Maund
    Andres Perea
    Kenny Saief

    OUT
    Arturo Alvarez (to El Salvador)
    Issac Angking (to Puerto Rico)
    Eric Calvillo (to El Salvador)
    Dustin Correa (to El Salvador)
    Jonathan Gonzalez (to Mexico)
    Jeremy Hall (to Puerto Rico)
    Moises Hernandez (to Guatemala)
    Fuad Ibrahim (to Ethiopia)
    Gerson Mayen (to El Salvador)
    Nick Millington (to Guyana)
    Alex Nimo (to Liberia)
    Joshua Perez (to El Salvador)
    Oscar Sorto (to El Salvador)
    Nevin Subotic (to Serbia)
    Tony Taylor (to Panama)
     
  6. GREGORY A NISENBAUM

    GREGORY A NISENBAUM New Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Mar 3, 2021
    Fair to say players coming in to our setup have more potential than players leaving. Not to say none of the outgoings wont be stars.
     
  7. Eldinter

    Eldinter Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Hernandez-Foster situation could be problematic if he breaks through in the Bundesliga in the future. I think it's a negative side effect of the pandemic. With the U20 team not having camps or a world cup this summer, dual-nationals in that age group are ripe for smaller nations to recruit for U23 or A teams. Can't blame Kreis for not calling him up because we have U23 CBS with real pro experience. That said, Hernandez-Foster could be doing in 12-18 months what Chris Richards is doing now. Could turn out to be a shortsighted move if he filed a one-time switch for the sake of Olympic qualifying that Wolfsburg won't release him for anyway. Mexico had a U20 camp and called up three LAFC players. Hopefully the federation is keeping in touch with U20 players behind the scenes the way the A team has been with Perea, Siebatcheu etc.
     
  8. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    As far as I can tell, Hernandez-Foster wasn't on Honduras' preliminary roster for the U23 CONCACAF Championships.
    Who knows the reason...............................

    Central American soccer press is notoriously unreliable, so who knows how serious that story was.

    KBF has been playing as a #6 for Wolfsburg of late. So he's right in the teeth of the loaded central midfield competition.
    With the top of the heap currently starting and playing well for the 2nd best team in the Bundesliga.
     
  9. Eldinter

    Eldinter Member

    Jul 28, 2009
    Fort Wayne, IN
    Club:
    FC Internazionale Milano
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is the concern that he size or physicality for CB and pace for LB? I don't see it necessarily as a concern that he's playing #6 for the youth team.
     
  10. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Add Jordan Siebatcheu to the IN list.
     
  11. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    He's not making a one time switch, though, so technically he's not.
    He played in some friendlies for French youth teams, but not in official competitions.
    So for all intents and purposes, he was a free agent.
     
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  12. AutoPenalti

    AutoPenalti Am I famous yet?

    Sep 26, 2011
    Coconut Creek
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Oh. Interesting, was not aware of that.
     
  13. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Good news for us. It means we don't have to wait around for FIFA to approve a switch.
    He can play for us immediately. :)
     
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  14. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's why the list is relatively short. You only need to file a one-time-switch if you played in an official youth competition. Lots of players have switched, but hadn't needed to go this route.
     
  15. LouisZ

    LouisZ Member+

    Oct 14, 2010
    Southern California-USA
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I expected this.
    The last time GB talked to him, Jordi was very positive about the idea. So, I guess GB gave him an invite.
     
  16. Sebsasour

    Sebsasour Member+

    New Mexico United
    May 26, 2012
    Albuquerque NM
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    It appears Rubio Rubin is headed for Guatemala

     
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  17. Rahbiefowlah

    Rahbiefowlah Member+

    Oct 22, 2001
    Las Vegas
    good for him, best of luck to him.
     
  18. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    ...............hard to believe he only recently turned 25.
     
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  19. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Has any player switched away from the US with as many caps (7) as Rubin has?
     
  20. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

    None
    United States
    May 12, 2019
    Two goals today for RSL and he seems to have beaten out Bobby Wood. He's only just turned 25 -- I bet he can help out Guatemala quite a bit.
     
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  21. Clint Eastwood

    Clint Eastwood Member+

    Dec 23, 2003
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    FC Dallas
    Yup. He'll definitely help. Unless I'm mistaken, Guatemala has already been eliminated from WCQing for 2022.
    So they're in a complete forward-looking rebuild. Their recent rosters have been totally underwhelming.
    I believe Rubin will be their only MLS player. For their recent WCQer, they called up players from the USL.

    In the FIFA rankings, they've absolutely plummeted down to 127 behind Sudan and the Philippines. 11th best in CONCACAF.
     
  22. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #322 BostonRed, May 3, 2021
    Last edited: May 3, 2021
    I think they still have 2 matches left in their qualification group.

    According to this, I think they are still in the running. They are in 2nd place in Group C on goal differential, having won their 2 matches. Top team in the group moves to the next round. Of course, Curacao is a tough out.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2022_FIFA_World_Cup_qualification_(CONCACAF)

    The FIFA WCQ site says they play SVG on June 4th & Curacao (likely for the marbles) on June 8th.

    https://www.fifa.com/worldcup/preliminaries/nccamerica/matches/#282655
     
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  23. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  24. gogorath

    gogorath Member+

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    United States
    May 12, 2019
    I think part of Guatemala's terrible ranking is them being disqualified for several years from CONCACAF competition because of -- I think -- government interference with their FA. Or something like that.
     
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  25. BostonRed

    BostonRed Member+

    Oct 9, 2011
    Somerville, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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