throw-in by player x, her side of the field. attacker y is in an offside position. thrower x throws to receiver x, who accidentally deflects the ball backwards toward offside y. y is charged with being offside. is this correct? i thought y should only be charged if ball was passed by a teammate. the line judge who called the offside, when asked who touched the ball back to y, an x or a y, could not recall. asked the center after the game and he did not know either--both were obviously focused on the offside player not on whether the sequence warranted the call. thanks in advance.
i'm confused - what team is reciever X on? by the way, generally it's easier if you refer to them as 'blue A, Red A, Blue B' and so forth...
ok--i'll try it your way: blue A throws to blue B, who accidentally deflects the ball backwards to white A, who happens to be in an offside position. white A is charged with offside upon the deflection by the blue B player. i thought white A could only be charged if the ball is passed by another white player, correct?
IF no white player played/touched the ball before an offside white player received the ball, then there is no offside offense. The ball must be touched by a teammate. If as you described it, then the ref was incorrect.
Ahh, got it. Yes, it must touch a white player before going to the other white player for it to be an offside.
It is also important to remember that deflections do not count as a controlled touch. If White A passed the ball forward while White B is in an offside position, and Blue A deflects the ball to White B, White B should be called for offside if they attempt to play the ball or interfere with play.
we are making this call much too simple. when team a plays the ball to offside team a player, and it touches a team b player on the way, we need to decide if it was a deflection or if the team b player has attempted to play the ball and misplayed it. if deflection... flag up; offside. if misplayed... flag down; play on; no offside penalty. the hard part is deciding deflection vs misplayed. not always a clear choice.
It seems like the ball was thrown in by one team, the ball was misplayed by a member of that team, and the ball then went directly to a player in an offside position on the other team. If this is the case, then there can not be an offside because the ball was not played by one of the offside player's team mates. Even if the thrower and the offside player were on the same team, there couldn't be an offside here.
this was the case as you stated. the throw and touch were by the defending players, and the ball wound up at the foot of an offside attacking player. should have been a very simple non-call but the ref charged the offside player. oh well...at least the game was not determined on that mistake... thanks for your repsonses.
What exactly is your definition of misplayed? By the way - this call can't possibly get any simpler - it never touched a teammate of the eventual receiver
holdenman - i was referring to the deflection/played aspect of the varriation, not the original post. the original was simple, as you note. ahh...misplayed. deflection - ball hits a stationary or moving target and bounces off without that target making a play on the ball. misplayed - the target trys to play the ball - header, kick, chest trap - and simple blows the playing of the ball by directing it on to the offside player or at least in that general direction. interpreting when a play has occured and when a deflection has occured is why you make the big bucks. for example - did the attempted header deflect off the player because he could not jump high enough to play the ball, or did he jump high enough and misdirect it.