Official U-22\23 Thread

Discussion in 'Japan' started by Dax, Dec 11, 2013.

  1. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Hum.
    And the point is, Musashi isn't more physical than Kubo, Asano or Minamino. He loses 1vs1 9 times out of ten.
     
  2. Majster2

    Majster2 Member+

    Apr 23, 2010
    Poland
    Club:
    Urawa RD
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  3. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    As expected, we will face Iran in the quarter final.
     
  4. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    It's gonna be reaaaaaallllllly tough.
     
  5. teammellieIRANfan

    Feb 28, 2009
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Not really. Our team sucks. Khakpour has no plan
     
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  6. takeuchi

    takeuchi Member+

    Jan 20, 2013
    Club:
    Liverpool FC
    Hat-trick from Minamino and you will forever become Cerezo Osaka fan.
     
  7. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If and when Minamino decides to show up, this team still has a shot...
     
  8. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    It's hard to show up when your task if to feed the mighty Musashi upfront. Teguramori has just moved aside the two best strikers in the team because why not.
     
  9. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Independent of the admittedly mediocre lineup, Minamino is suffeirng from poor fitness, form, or both. Teguramori said that giving him 60 minutes in the opener was really giving him the benefit of the doubt, and Masakuni Yamamoto pretty much agreed with that assessment on air during the Thailand match. Getting Minamino to find his rhythm will be one of the goals for the 3rd group match.
     
  10. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    He certainly sucked and he even admitted it himself but he's never played well with that team. His lack of fitness seems to date from the day he was called to sit on the bench on the other side of the planet by Vahid. It's baffling how everything is poorly handled.

    But that said, if you're a good coach, you try to put your best players where they're the most likely to turn up.
     
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  11. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does any of you know that will Japan u23 team going to use reserve team against Saudi Arabia u23 or not?
     
  12. Dax

    Dax Moderator
    Staff Member

    Feb 29, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    looks like so
     
  13. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Our team is far from bad, it's just the coach that is terrible and inexperienced, 2 different things
     
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  14. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Aha.... so that is why you lost against Saudis at home in the qualifiers, and lost against Qatar in this tournament.

    ... there is also no need to remind you that your U-23 lost against Vietnam 1-4 and drew with Kyrgyzstan in the last Asian Games (though that squad was slightly different from this one, but there are some players from that squad still in this team).

    Your youth teams suck, and it will be a shame if Japan knocked out by Iran.

    My only fear is that Teguramori and our players will be intimidated by the reputation and physical style of Iranians, other than that It should be a safe trip for Japan to the semi final.
     
  15. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No worries, Iran will be cowering in the face of Musashi Suzuki's physical presence.

    much menacing
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    very ferocity
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  16. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If japan u23 had vingada as head coach in last Asian games, you would not have gotten a better result against Vietnam most likely. According to one of Iran women national u23 football team members, even the women team would have gotten better results in last Asian games.

    After that tournament, we got a coach who has never managed a team before. He does not have even a proper coaching license and Iran FA negotiated with AFC to let him sit on the bench for this tournament. Before Saudi Arabia u23 game, the current coaching staff had the team for only one month. Regard Qatar game, there were tons of errors by coach in the line up, substitutions, using many players in wrong positions, etc but no one cares about that game any more because we passed the group stage comfortably.

    Japan u23 is using its two European players unlike Iran. We are in disadvantage here because the clubs did not release Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh, etc. If we could have those players we would have been strong favorite. Anyway my biggest fear is the coaching staff. If they do not make any horrible error like Qatar game, I think we have very good chance to win.
     
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  17. Zandi360

    Zandi360 Member+

    Dec 10, 2013
    Club:
    Sepahan
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Ok buddy. I'm well aware of what you usually post about Iran, so make what you think of it , I don't want to start anything here ;)

    The Asian games are a whole other topic and would need a different argument, I don't even understand how you are comparing these two things. Against Japan, we will be our own enemy, we have the talent but our coach is very unqualified and not suited for such job.
     
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  18. Saku²

    Saku² Member+

    Aug 22, 2009
    Club:
    FC Salzburg
    Let us all wait until the end of the game before making excuses, please.
     
  19. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    You would be strong favourite against us just based on 2 European based players being called-up?

    I think that say much about your overall team quality.

    Anyway, our 2 European based played hadn't any contributions to the team yet, and they are misused by our coach (who has bad strategies, tactics and players selection) yet we are not complaining or making excuses in advance like you.


    ... and in spite all of these handicaps we topped our group, and I think If you were in our shoes you won't manage the same, especially with N.Korea and your bogey team (Saudi Arabia) in it.

    By the way is bad coaching the only reason you lost against Saudis at home?
    So what about you losing against them in 2010 WC qualifiers at Azadi stadium?

    Guys, you really need to stop daydreaming about your team being the best in Asia (when you are actually not), and stop your arrogant tone against other Asian teams.


    Anyway, Good Luck.
     
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  20. AIL1998

    AIL1998 Member+

    May 27, 2012
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1. Regard first bolded part, yes. Having those players would have increased the strength of our team. As an example, Japan senior team is stronger whenever they have Honda and Kagawa.

    2. Your coach managed 5 years in his country league unlike our u23 team coach.

    3. After the draw, I wished our u23 team had your group. I did not want to face host team in group stage.

    4. I explained about that 2-1 loss against Saudi Arabia Olympic team. The inexperienced coaching staff had the team for one month, we guaranteed the qualification before that game and the result of that game had no effect on advancing to the next round, etc
    Why do you bring WCQs here? WCQs and this u23 tournament are two completely different tournaments.

    5. Why you are writing false comments intentionally? Who claimed we are best Asian team? Arrogant??? Before this u23 tournament, the majority Iran football fans were pessimistic about this u 23 tournament.

    I am going to close the discussion now.
     
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  21. teammellieIRANfan

    Feb 28, 2009
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    Regardless of what happens, I hope to see a physical and exciting game.
     
  22. Mani

    Mani BigSoccer Supporter

    Aug 1, 2004
    Club:
    Perspolis
    Nat'l Team:
    Iran
    #497 Mani, Jan 19, 2016
    Last edited: Jan 19, 2016
    "Samurai Warrior" is not even Japanese nor have any connections to Japan, he is just a glory hunter, he is actually from Bahrain, hence his beef with Iran and Iranians. So don't let him bait you into flame war with the Japanese. That's what he wants.

    As for Iran's quality, we are actually missing 3 European-based players who are not just regulars in the senior national team, but also key players. With Azmoun, Jahanbakhsh, and Ezatollahi, Iran would have probably had the best squad in this tournament on paper. So Japan does have an advantage here and on paper, Japan is the favourite.

    As for Iran's results, we just won the West Asian U-23 Chanpsionships last month in Qatar which included Qatar, Saudi Arabia etc and that result is more relevant than Asian Games 2 years ago. 70% or more of the players who took part in Asian games are now over 23 and not even part of this squad anyways. So "Samurai Warrior" is just talking out of his behind.

    Finally, quality of youth teams has no bearing on who is the best team in Asia anyways. Iran is one the best teams in Asia, and ranked 1st by FIFA for 2 years now. That's a just a fact, regardless of what certain Arab fans have to say about it.
     
  23. Samurai Warrior

    Samurai Warrior Member+

    Dec 2, 2008
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Starting line-up against Saudi Arabia:

    Sugimoto
    Matsubara - Ueda - Nara - Yamanaka.
    Ideguchi - Misao - Oshima.
    Nakajima.
    Minamnio - Onaiwuo.​
     
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  24. naopon

    naopon Member+

    Jan 2, 2007
    California
    Club:
    Kawasaki Frontale
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Arab Samurai" lol srsly? Ethnic baiting is not particularly welcome here...
     
  25. Radu Razvan

    Radu Razvan Member+

    Mar 1, 2013
    Bucharest, Romania
    Club:
    AS Roma
    Nat'l Team:
    Romania
    twitter has problems today. for you as well, naopon ?
     

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