Official DC United vs Columbus Crew PRE Match Thread & PBP Discussion [R]

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  1. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Official DC United vs Columbus Crew PRE Match Thread

    DC United vs Columbus Crew

    • Saturday, October 4, 7:30 EST •

    Live on HDNet, CSN and Shootout.
    DCUnited.com Match Preview - Including TV, Radio and Webcast Information
    MLSNet Match Notes
    English Webcast - WMET
    Other Webcasts
    PBP Chat Information

    • Note • I'm not 100% sure about the TV information. MLSNet hasn't posted their weekly schedule yet. But it looks like it is on Shootout at the least.

    This post will be updated later in the week for corrections and additions.
    Items in gray will be updated once available or confirmed.

    No Flames • No Trolls
     
  2. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 New Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    An important fact about this match: If United wins, they clinch at least a tie with Columbus for fourth place....and a playoff spot.
     
  3. Sachin

    Sachin New Member

    Jan 14, 2000
    La Norte
    Club:
    DC United
    I remember the days when Columbus was the Tina to our Ike. Here's hoping we can make that happen again.

    Sachin
     
  4. fatbastard

    fatbastard Member+

    Aug 1, 2003
    Lincoln (ish), Va
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What, the one who went on to be successful while the latter became a disjointed mess and slipped into obscurity .... heehee ... I too miss the days we used to beat them like a redheaded stepchild, like NJ.
    Man, I hope we somehow find the fortitude to go up there and tough this out for a win. As many games as we've played, and with the players we're missing, I may be happy with a tie.
    ... We all laugh at a yellow football team.....
     
  5. Footer Phooter

    Jul 23, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    ComcastSportsNet has it listed on their site as being on at 7:30.
     
  6. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    :)

    My daughters and I sing this in our mini-van whenever I put The Yellow Submarine. :)

    DC United-2
    Columbus-1

    DC United needs to bounce bad from a heart-breaking US Open Cup loss, in which quite frankly it did not look too good.
     
  7. jackrock

    jackrock Member

    Aug 19, 2003
    Talcott. WV
    Club:
    DC United
    So if DC wins they in effectivley clinch a playoff spot? YEEESSSS! Who will televise the playoffs, or will it be like the season, w/ several carriers?
    Thanx to whoever answers this.
     
  8. joshdcu

    joshdcu New Member

    Jun 29, 1999
    Washington, DC
    With Dema, Petke, and possibly Ivanov out due to yellow card accumulation, this could be a tough one.

    That said, I think DC United will pull through and win 2-1.
     
  9. Jimbo

    Jimbo Member

    Dec 17, 1999
    Washington, DC
    Earlier in the week MLS Net listed Ivanov as a suspended player. Today only Petke and Kovalenko are suspended. While Galin hasn't been the best defender, it's nice to have him available given the other suspensions and injuries. This is not going to be an easy game for DC. Rimando and Olsen were big parts of the team's recent success. So are Kovalenko and Petke. After a bitter home tie and a loss in the Open Cup semifinals, it's time to find out how tough this team really is.
     
  10. Now that we are out of the Open Cup its time to concentrate on the MLS playoffs. A win in Columbus would be huge for us. Can Dema play this weekend? I thought I read that he has accumulated too many points. With so many people hurt and all the points handed out against the metroscum can we field a team? Glad to see Stoitchkov is ready to play some again. Say what you want about the old warrior but he still has game.

    Bobby has been playing like crap recently, anybody else wish We had Olsen and not Convey?

    I think we can take them but someone tell Ivanov to stay on his mark especially if it is Bundel or McBride - both can kill you in a heart beat.

    Excited about this game because it means so much and I won't have to watch any scum.

    -The Far Side
     
  11. Barbara

    Barbara BigSoccer Supporter

    Apr 29, 2000
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    This never fails to crack me up.


    I'd feel a lot better about this game if it was at home. We never seem to do well in Columbus.
     
  12. BudWiser

    BudWiser New Member

    Jul 17, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    And the last-second goal from McGee the game before that......

    Tough to take
     
  13. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Villarreal is playing the DC United!?
     
  14. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    I'd have to assume that Chino gets the start at D-mid and Namoff starts at outside back. Namoff has had a great season but doesn't surge down the flanks on attack and Alegria is a liability with the ball (on Richie Williams sprays more passes to the other team from that spot).

    I suspect (given the injury situation, the personnel likely to start, on the road, Hudson's tendencies this year on the road) that this team will try to keep it's defensive shape and seek to counter. My preference would be Stewart at A-mid with Thiago Martins and Cerritos up top. If Etcheverry starts, I don't think he'll have the legs (or the support) to be successful in that kind of scheme.
     
  15. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    This is gonna be a tough game to win what with all the players out. You would think that opur lineup would be something like this:

    ---------------Warren
    Ivanov---Nelsen---Prideaux---Namoff
    --------------Alegria
    Quintanilla----------------Convey
    ------------Etcheverry
    -----Stewart--------Cerritos


    However, as Joe reminds us above, Hudson often puts out more of a defensive team on the road. Given that Alegria at d-mid does not send out positive vibes, I wonder what Ray might do. Here are some possibilities:

    1) Bench Etch, move Stewart to a-mid, insert Martins. Overall more defense with Stewart not really playing the a-mid role. Rather he'll acr like he did @ SJ.

    2) Same initial lineuup but with Namoff more of a d-mid and Q2 and Convey more defensive: a defensive 352.

    3) Insert Stokes in defense, move Namoff to d-mid next to Chino, and remove either Etch or Cerritos.


    My guess is that Etch will play, but our offense will be poor due to the defensive lineup. We hope for one goal.
     
  16. DutchFootballRulez

    Jul 15, 2003
    Baltimore, MD
    Club:
    FC Barcelona
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is Kovalenko suspended for this match ?
     
  17. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Maybe I'm missing something but I don't think that's true. If DC wins we'll have 40 points and the Crew will have 31. The Crew have three games left after this so the most they could get is 40 points. So if we lose all our remaining games the Crew will be level with us at 40. The first tie-breaker is head to head. Right now we're tied at head to head - each team with one home win by a score of 3-0. If we win we'll obviously pull ahead of the Crew in the head to head competition BUT there's still one more game. The Crew would have to win it AND make up for their OVERALL goal differential deficit but theoretically it's possible. So I don't actually think we can clinch with a win. But maybe I'm missing something. The MLS tie-breaking procedures always did confuse me ...

    Here they are, by the way - about halfway down:

    http://www.mlsnet.com/about/regulations/
     
  18. sch2383

    sch2383 New Member

    Feb 14, 2003
    Northern Virginia
    So basiclly we need to pick up 4 points between now and the end of the season.
     
  19. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 New Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    You're right. I didn't bother to look at all the tie-breaking scenarios.

    But in terms of the standings and point totals, we would clinch a tie.
     
  20. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 New Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not exactly.

    Our 'Magic Number' to clinch a playoff berth is 7. That's a combination of points gained by DC United and lost by Columbus. ( A Win this weekend is 3 points for a United win AND 3 points that Columbus did not get...for 6 points against the magic number).
     
  21. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia

    You betcha.
     
  22. Lanky134

    Lanky134 New Member

    Oct 25, 1999
    134, 3, 6
    Prideaux will need to be careful because he has picked up cards in his last two games. If he picks up one against Columbus he will miss the game against NE for having yellows in three consecutive games.

    Also, Ivanov needs one more to go over 21 Caution Points.
     
  23. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    So I guess we're all hoping Ivanov gets a card. ;)
     
  24. Jose L. Couso

    Jose L. Couso New Member

    Jul 31, 2000
    Arlington, VA
    The television information has been confirmed by Soccer America Confidential.

    "GAMES ON TELEVISION (all times ET unless noted)

    SATURDAY, Oct. 4

    MLS SHOOTOUT PACKAGE
    MLS COLUMBUS-D.C. UNITED (live) 7:30 pm.
    DirecTV: 794
    Dish Net: 457

    CHICAGO-LOS ANGELES (live) 8:30 pm
    DirecTV: 796
    Dish Net: 461

    DALLAS-NEW ENGLAND (live) 10:00 pm.
    DirecTV: 797
    Dish Net: 460

    HDNET
    MLS COLUMBUS-D.C. UNITED (live) 7:30 pm.

    FOX SPORTS WORLD
    MLS CHICAGO-LOS ANGELES (live), 8:30 pm."
     
  25. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    I like the sentiment but already we won't have Nelsen for the Revs match; there's a good chance we won't have Prideaux too. Losing Ivanov would be bad in this case. If that happened then we'd just have two defenders in Petke and Namoff. No, I don't count the lepers, er rookies Stokes or Carroll as defenders. Obviously they aren't good enough for MLS yet. Ray says so. :rolleyes:
     

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