Official 2020 Nadeshiko Japan Thread [R] - なでしこジャパン(英語スレッド)

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  1. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
  2. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
    Club:
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    Nat'l Team:
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    I've got plenty of time to post my weekly international update, this time, because I won't have to go to work tomorrow (there is a sort of quarantine in my area because of the corona-virus crisis); so let's travel around the world:

    Aussie W-League:

    - On Thursday, Melbourne City win an away game vs Western Sydney Wanderers by 0-4 and clinch the title of the regular season: this also means that they'll have the home advantage in the semifinal of play-offs. Frankly, they seem several levels above the rest of the field and I'd be quite surprised if they wouldn't end winning the play-offs once again. Kinga played the whole game.
    Highlights (including an hint at the celebrations for the regular season title): https://www.w-league.com.au/video/w...-melbourne-city-highlights-westfield-w-league
    Bonus: a short recap of Melbourne City's season so far, including a beautiful Yukari Kinga's goal from some weeks ago: https://www.w-league.com.au/video/premiers-melbourne-city-clinch-w-league-premiership-a-game-spare


    Division 1 Féminine:

    - Today, OL-Montpellier 5-0: if PSG had any hope that Montpellier could stop OL, they were crushed; By now, I'd say that what once was Rumi Utsugi's team is no more the third force of the league (replaced by Bordeaux) and can't compete anymore for a result with the likes of OL or PSG. Saki Kumagai started, got a Yellow Card at 3' (!) and was subbed-out at 66'.


    Frauen-Bundesliga:

    - here I have a question for the thread: @unepommekun, towards the end of 2019, gave the news to us that Hikaru Naomoto was going to get back to Urawa and Shiho Tomari to Nagano. No news about Natsuki Kishikawa, instead, unless I've missed them. :cautious: Today, though, Division 2 resumed and BV Cloppenburg won an away game by 0-2 vs FSV Gütersloh without Kishikawa being anywhere to be seen on the pitch nor on the bench. Since she had always been a regular starter so far, I have to wonder if she didn't left the club too. The only other reason why she wasn't there should be an injury. If anyone knows more, please tell: if we'd discover that Kishikawa left Cloppenburg for some reason, we could scratch Frauen-Bundesliga from our international updates for good for the remainder of this season.


    Liga Femenina:

    - Espanyol-Sevilla 0-1. Espanyol had almost managed to gain one point; then, at 79', Ayaka Noguchi, who had started the game, was subbed out: 7 minutes later, at 86', Sevilla scored. Not that I want to suggest that a Japanese player on the pitch would have prevented that, but... :whistling:

    - The other teams with Japanese players in them were clashing against each other: Deportivo Abanca-Sporting Huelva 5-1 (oddly, they almost have the exact same jersey, with white and blue stripes, but Deportivo's are horizontal while Huelva's are vertical). Maya Yamamoto started, didn't score any of the goals and was subbed out at 67'. Yoko Tanaka was nowhere to be seen (still injured I suppose?).
    Deportivo now back at 4th place (they caught up with Atheltic Bilbao); Sporting Huelva one-to-last :eek:, although level in points with two other teams.


    Serie A Femminile:

    - Since most women's league matches are played on Saturday, they managed to avoid the quarantine that started today: the league, though, will resume on 21st of March only. It could have been a very important match-day for Tavagnacco, since they were winning an away game in Empoli, and with an early goal by none other than our Shino Kunisawa! But Empoli equalized at 90'! :x3: Tavagnacco anyway gained one point over Verona (that lost by 0-4 to Juventus and are now 2 points ahead) and didn't lose any point to Pink Bari (that had a 2-2 draw vs Inter and remain 1 point ahead). both Kunisawa and Kato played the whole match.
    It's a shame that, the day when our player scores, we apparently don't get any highlights. I can only point you to this article (in Italian) showing a picture of our player and claiming that she was regenerated by the arrival of a young new coach, Chiara Orlando, who moved her to the midfield from defense where she was deployed so far: a goal was the immediate reward.

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  3. datschge

    datschge Member+

    Feb 9, 2014
    Germany
    While she's obviously still on the old team photo, she's no longer listed among the individual players on http://www.bvcloppenburg.de/frauen/1.-frauen/spielerinnen

    https://www.nwzonline.de/cloppenbur...-wird-wettbewerbsfaehig_a_50,7,846876119.html mentions indeed that Natsuki Kishikawa, along with Shiho Tomari, went back to Japan as well.

    Best of luck against Covid-19!
     
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  4. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Thank you very much: this confirms my suspects. So, from now on, I'll skip Frauen-Bundesliga in my international update posts, since we haven't any Japanese player anymore in the two first divisions, at least as far as I know. Should any Japanese player be signed by the start of 2020-2021 season, I'll go back including this league again.

    Although I guess the times when a lot of prominent NT players as Saki Kumagai, Yuki Nagasato and Kozue Ando were playing in Germany are far behind and Frauen-Bundesliga has lost quite a lot of its attractive power.

    Thanks, I hope we'll be ok soon! :thumbsup: For my part I am healthy, not much worried and quite optimistic instead.
     
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  5. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
     
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  6. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Thanks! :eek: So we even have another Japanese player in Frauen-Bundesliga's 1st Division (although 1FC Köln are currently deep in the relegation zone).

    Do you know if these players are regular starters in their respective teams?

    By the way, I am not sure where most of them come from: I suppose some went directly to Germany from University teams, without transitioniong through Nadeshiko League?

    Edit: oh, and welcome to our boards, @Lohmann: I just noticed you joined today! :notworthy::giggle:
     
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  7. Lohmann

    Lohmann Member

    Arminia Bielefeld
    Germany
    Feb 24, 2020
    Nat'l Team:
    Germany
    I have watched Big Soccer Forum already for some years and decided to sign up because I was shocked that you ignore so many Japanese players.:eek::)

    2019/20:
    Hirano 9 games,1 goal
    Ishikawa 14 games, 3 goals(1 against Bielefeld:mad:)
    Nishibayashi 13 games, 1 goal
    Hirata 12 games, 2 goals

    Nishibayashi joined Saarbrücken from another 2.Bundesliga club(Hohen Neuendorf).
     
  8. pierre bezukhov

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    To be fair to blissett it is difficult to keep track of all the players.
     
  9. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Well, that's why we're a well-informed bunch from all parts of the world. :D
     
  10. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Hirano Yuka (23): Nojima - Germany
    Ishikawa Yu (28): Konomiya - Germany
    Nishibayashi Rie (26): Nagano - Germany
    Hirata Mai (21): JFA -Germany

    In fact, a remarkable player in Nadeshiko League was only Hirano. I remember some spectacular goals for Nojima even though she mostly played as a DF.
    Hirata might've been a hopeful young.
     
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  11. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
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  12. Lechus7

    Lechus7 Member+

    Aug 31, 2011
    Wroclaw
    GK
    IKEDA Sakiko (Urawa Red Diamonds Ladies)
    YAMASHITA Ayaka (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    HIRAO Chika (Albirex Niigata Ladies)

    DF
    KUMAGAI Saki (Lyon)
    MATSUBARA Arisa (Nojima Stella Kanagawa Sagamihara)
    MIYAKE Shiori (INAC Kobe Leonessa)
    DOKO Mayo (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    SHIMIZU Risa (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    MIYAGAWA Asato (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    MINAMI Moeka (Urawa Red Diamonds Ladies)

    MF
    NAKAJIMA Emi (INAC Kobe Leonessa)
    NAOMOTO Hikaru (Urawa Red Diamonds Ladies)
    MOMIKI Yuka (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    HASEGAWA Yui (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    SUGITA Hina (INAC Kobe Leonessa)
    MIURA Narumi (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
    ENDO Jun (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)

    FW
    SUGASAWA Yuika (Urawa Red Diamonds Ladies)
    IWABUCHI Mana (INAC Kobe Leonessa)
    TANAKA Mina (INAC Kobe Leonessa)
    UENO Mami (Ehime FC Ladies)
    IKEJIRI Mayu (Mynavi Vegalta Sendai Ladies)
    KOBAYASHI Rikako (Nippon TV Tokyo Verdy Beleza)
     
  13. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    INAC Kobe
    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Let me guess - Sameshima and Utsugi out because of injuries.
     
  14. pierre bezukhov

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    There are no real surprises here and it is not a bad squad, but I still find some of the decisions a little frustrating.

    I do not know much about Mami Ueno, so I will see how she plays. I just have a problem with picking players who have been playing in a lower division.

    I love Naomoto, but I do not know how she can be selected based on her recent form. She was pretty bad last season for Nadeshiko and barely played for her club team. I hope she plays better, but why not wait and see how she plays for Urawa. I get that they hope she will come good, but still she might not.

    Urawa has only four players, despite having a very good season last year. I thought Kurishima might get a call up, or the wonderkid that is Hana Takahashi. Takahashi in particular seems to be a really capable player and can play in attack and defence. I thought they wanted versatile players? If they are injured then fair enough.

    Nadeshiko will miss Ueki. I hate her when she is playing for Beleza with all the diving, but when it comes to Nadeshiko I want her in the squad! She is a very good player. Obviously she is still injured.

    On the whole it is a pretty good squad. I am curious to see whether Jun Endo plays at left back against England.
     
  15. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Takahashi is selected for Young Nadeshiko.
    It would be the same situation as the former Young Nadeshiko members case. Takakura waited to call them until U20 WWC ended.
     
  16. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Young Nadeshiko members for the friendly match vs Germany:

    GK
    Tanaka Momoko, Fukuda Shiori, Ohba Shu

    DF
    Takahashi Hana, Funaki Nodoka, Matsuda Shino, Goto Wakaba, Tomioka Chihiro, Nagae Ibuki, Tabata Haruna

    MF
    Miura Haruka, Watanabe Mai, KanNo Oto, Kato Momo, Takizawa Chise, Ito Sara, Morita Misaki, Nakao Momo, Kinoshita Momoka

    FW
    Hirosawa Maho, Kamiya Chiina, Ohsawa Haruka, Shimada Mei, Yamamoto Yuzuki
     
  17. pierre bezukhov

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    Fair enough. I did not even think about that. She is older than Jun Endo, so I just assumed they would consider her more for the senior team.
     
  18. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
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  19. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    The friendly match of Young Nadeshiko vs Germany U20 was cancelled because of the epidemic.
     
  20. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Semi-off-topic:

    a US player claims that USWNT reserves team is second best NT in the world. o_O

    Now, I am a sportsman and I have no problem admitting that USA are strong and most probably deserved their title, but it's not like they dominated all opposition at the WWC, apart from Thailand. The matches vs Sweden, Spain, France and England, and for an half also the final vs Netherlands, were quite close affairs and I am not sure at all that USWNT would have won them with their second-lines.

    Now, I am aware that great numbers work against us, because one day it will fatally happen that a team will win back-to-back WWC and Olympics and the spell that prevented that so far will be broken, but this really looks like too much hubris from USA and I have to hope that it will find its retribution in Tokyo this summer. :ninja:
     
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  21. pierre bezukhov

    AC Milan
    Japan
    Mar 7, 2018
    Japan
    Americans are very confident, some might say over confident, but they have earned it. They are still the best team in the world, though not by so much any more and it is up to other teams to challenge them. I really thought the Dutch and the French would give them a bit more of a fight, but really the team that impressed me against the Americans were the Spanish at the last world cup.

    The Americans will probably win gold at the Olympics (if they are held). But I do not think it will be as easy as they think. They depend a lot on their physicality and running to win matches. They will have a small squad that will have to play a lot of matches in really hot and humid conditions. It is going to knock them about, like all the teams. The teams will have to play smart, patient football.

    Seriously! Tokyo in August is ridiculously hot and humid. Who ever though holding the Olympics in Tokyo in August was a good idea needs their head examined.

    Their second team would probably beat a lot of national teams, but I do not think it is the second best team in the world. Their first team is good, but I still think most of their best players are the wrong side of thirty, and they are only getting older. I think they are going to decline a little bit, but I could be wrong.
     
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  22. sbahnhof

    sbahnhof Member+

    Nov 21, 2016
    Aotearoa
    They would probably win 2nd place in a Trolling Contest
     
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  23. unepommekun

    unepommekun Member

    Beleza
    Japan
    Mar 26, 2018
    Kobayashi out (due to injury), Ueki in.
     
  24. blissett

    blissett Member+

    Aug 20, 2011
    Italy
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    Well Kobayashi's injury is very annoying, but I am glad that Ueki is in. At WWC 2019 she was out injured and we missed her potential contribution to our offense line. I probably already said that, but my opinion is that, if healthy, Ueki could be a key-player at Olympic Games.
     
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  25. #5nadeshikofan

    #5nadeshikofan Member+

    INAC Kobe
    May 26, 2012
    Plymouth, Michigan, USA
    Club:
    Vegalta Sendai
    Nat'l Team:
    Japan
    Spain vs Japan tomorrow. I might even be able to watch the game.
     
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