Um, no. Please look up the definition of "professional" and what type of league the PDL is.[/QUOTE] semi-professional is still professional.
Players in the PDL, unlike the league I was referring to, are not allowed to be paid for playing, which makes it an amateur league. If players were paid for playing, it would impact their NCAA eligibility.
Sorry... but our mission statement has always been supporting soccer in NYC... from top down..... St.Johns, BK Knights... teams in the Cosmopolitian league... are organization is less about being MLS fixated, and more about showing the world that NYC loves soccer, and will support it at every level.
Wikipedia is great.... except when it's wrong. Try the USL PDL page. PDL players can be paid, which makes them professional. A thread over in the USL forum suggests that college players can play against pros but can not be on the same team as pros.
Thank You! Seems like people live and Die by Wikipedia - its not correct all the time - in fact people edit it THINK they know everything but they really dont! For example we had a talk that the Jets were named because of the -ets of NY - which is NOT THE CASE as the Jets were named the Jets because of LGA Airport and because in that time Jets were the modern thing - but someone linked Wikipedia which said that meanwhile the Jets homepage says nothing of it! Sorry - I like Wiki but its not Correct and its not the FINAL WORD!
If some players are indeed paid in the PDL, then so be it, I still don't think most people would call the Brooklyn Knights a "professional" team. Not to say they're unworthy of support of course if that's what you like.
That's what a lot of the english say about the MLS. Nice to see you've taken a page from the eurosnobs. And I hope you remember the "most people would call" argument next time you argue that Red Bull is a NY team. Remember, I don't think "most people would call" New Jersey New York.
I wish people would make up their minds.. first we don't support our "local" team according the the ESC, then we get berated when we actually do support them. I guess we just differ on our opinion of what "local" is... and to be honest.... so far we've been as a group to both one Knights game, and one RedBull game... and we had a lot more fun in Brooklyn to be honest.
Um, no. Does anyone on Brooklyn get paid 5 figures? Does anyone get paid at all? If not, that's fine, but that means you're not a "professional" team. No worries, there are a few teams in the FA Cup Third Round today that aren't "professional" either. Their website seems to indicate that they don't get paid. Most people not in the Borough Boys would say northern New Jersey is in the New York City metro area. And by most, it's a two digit percentage starting with a 9 and followed by a number close to 9. Considering the dump of the stadium Red Bull (there's a space between the two words) currently play in, that doesn't surprise me. But they're fixing that as fast as they can. Maybe we could see New York v Brooklyn at RBA in the U.S. Open Cup one day.
honestly, 90 something percent of all people would answer "New York" when posed with the question "where is Harrison, New Jersey."? Fascinating. I have to get out to more mental institutions I guess.
Just as you have every right to define local by your own terms, i have every right to find that definition petty. Also, its Red Bulls fans, please dont attribute every comment you hear from a NYRB fan as ESC. When have you been berated for supporting NYRB? Then support the Brooklyn side, honestly this idea RedBull fans need any of you is in your head. You represent a very very small minority of MLS ready fans un the region, i recruited more people in one evening at a playoff watch party in Manhatten than you have in your entire club. So go ahead and have fun at the Knights game, organize behind them if that is the only way you are going to enjoy live football. Hell before MLS that is what many of us did with other small local sides. But overall i find the vast majoity of soccer fans that are not predisposed against MLS in NYC to be willing and interested in the experiance we offer. I dont know why you all just dont organize as a NYC supporters club and rep that and support NYRB. Its not like you are going to have an MLS time in your backyard anytime in the near future if ever...and i would tend to lean on the if ever side (as i always have). If you have some passion to give why let all this stop you, why support the Knights out of spite? Whatever, do what makes you happy because that is really all you can do in the end and live with yourself.
I hope this is true, because any time I've been in a room with ESC members, and admittedly it's been some time now, the recruitment efforts were non-existent. And it shows in the stands, doesn't it?
We dont support them in spite - we went to the RR and Brooklyn games as a nice cheap way to enjoy a match - we got a great response from both teams - the Knights players were especially receptive of us and we enjoyed it - so the front office approached us - when you get things like that - yea - your going to support a cause!
At least you are finally realizing it! But on a serious note, if you can reference anything OUTSIDE of the EPL, then maybe we can converse on a more realistic level. I'm not saying that the EPL sucks, as evidenced by the amount of people that watch it, but its not the end all of futbol/soccer/football worldwide.
1. Both Red Bull fans and ESC members both being attributed to what i was speaking about, ( I can name them individually if you want). also, btw...it's great how we see some of these ESC members in person, and all of a sudden they're quiet and reverant around us....like we don't know who you guys are online and in person. 2. As the Borough Boys, we made an effort early in our formation to officially have no stance on supporting an MLS team other than our future one. Infact, many of our members happen to like RedBull. 3. Our goal is to make NYC the greatest city in the US for soccer support. So between the ESC getting a huge following for the Bulls, and us growing support for local PDL and the USMNT, we feel that we can accomplish this, with or without a second team in the City. Now, if any RedBull fan can give us a hardtime for us wanting Soccer to succeed in NYC or think's we're idiots for supporting the PDL..... Then you just inheirently hate us. We have no issue with RedBull Fans or the ESC....
If will be chosen Miami and Vancouver for 2011, I think that if Wilpon is still truly interested, we have great chances for 2012 expansion. In fact Atlanta will be not ready before than 2013 and so the our main opponents will be only Portland, Montreal and St Louis ( I don't consider Ottawa a serious candidate ). What is your opinion ?
Is possible this scenario ? 2010 : Philly and Miami 2011 : Vancouver 2012 : NYC and 1 among Montreal, St Louis or Portland
Tis is new york, I would like to see a owner rather than wilpon, unless he does things quickly, looking at dates around 2013 is alittle to far away, but im willing to wait
To be honest every esc guy that ive meet has been a class guy, i have no problem with you guys, i just can't support that ownership and that corp. as i think it represents alot of what is wrong with sports.