News: NYCFC is Official for 2015: MCFC and NY Yankees as co-owners

MasterShake29 · Sep 20, 2013

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Bob might get a call but Kreis plays a more entertaining brand of ball

Plus, Bob is too soft spoken to survive the New York media
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Um...

MasterShake29 · Sep 20, 2013

MattXG said: ↑

RSL is a fantastic organization but, let's be honest, NYCFC will be a step-up.

They'll have bigger names, way more money, way more media coverage. ESPN already shows how many Red Bull games a year? NYCFC is going to be even bigger. Red Bull has how many big names on the team? NYCFC will have more.

A job at NYCFC could be bigger than a lot of EPL jobs in a couple of years which would throw open those doors most likely....
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How will NYCFC immediately be bigger than NYRB? Bigger names? Who is a bigger name than Henry was? That's a really really short list. Way more money? Um, salary cap dude. More media? Why?

I love delusion.

Black Prince · Sep 20, 2013

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Certainly didn't mean one market was better than another - like I said in another post, they both have things about them that would appeal off-the-field depending on your personality and such.

I guess it's a matter of perspective. I would think any competitive person who has already won a title in one place would look somewhere else to a brand new position where he could really leave a mark and think "this is a challenge."
I think that's mostly what motivated Sigi to leave Columbus for Seattle and I suspect that would be the reason that Kreis would leave, if he did. It's not a question of New York being better than Salt Lake in any way. It's a question of being the guy who starts from scratch and builds a dynasty. That's a heck of a challenge and not one every coach has the ability to be successful at. I suspect if he takes the job that Kreis will say exactly that ... that the challenge of building something and making it his own and incredibly successful was something he wanted to take on.
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You realize that is what JK is attempting to do at RSL, right?

For all intents and purposes, he started from scratch when he became the first RSL player.

jayd8888 · Sep 20, 2013

AndyMead said: ↑

The kids are now in college. I've accomplished all can with my first wife. I should dump her and find someone hotter, smarter, and richer.

Right?

I shouldn't settle for what's worked the last 25 years.

I need to prove myself at a higher level.
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Well, how hot are we talking here?

BlueIntent · Sep 20, 2013

Lots of pro´s and con´s on this thread..Good!
Can we agree on "ambition" being the keyword here?
Ambition comes in many forms of course, but if we assume that Yankees and Man City do have big plans for NYCFC..God knows they both got a track record for spending big to reach the top, and there will be all kinds of glamour added by glitzy marketing teams etc.

I think he was over in the U.K not only to meet the top brass..but that he was given the royal treatment, access to players, small talk about infrastructure/stadium, discussions with coaches, Soriano telling amusing stories about his time as CEO at Barcelona over a glass of wine etc etc.
All of it to make him feel a part of the family in a way.
That´s a kind of sales pitch hard to disregard.

MattXG · Sep 20, 2013

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Not so fast Charlie ....

Kreis won't make contract decision before season ends
Salt Lake Tribune
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Are you kidding me?

Let me show you one line that SCREAMED right out to me. I'm now more convinced than ever that he's already decided to leave.

Ok here's what he said:

"I want to be clear and say that nothing for me has changed," he said. "My focus is completely on the team. My focus is on doing everything I can to win the Open Cup, challenge for a Supporters’ Shield and hopefully get us in a position to win an MLS Cup. Just because somebody came out with an article yesterday doesn’t change my position. That’s exactly where I have been and that’s where I will continue to be until the end of the season."
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"That's exactly where I have been and that's where I will continue to be...... UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON."

"....UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON....."

That's what he says after meeting with MCFC?

He's gone.

cthomer5000 · Sep 20, 2013

MattXG said: ↑

Are you kidding me?

Let me show you one line that SCREAMED right out to me. I'm now more convinced than ever that he's already decided to leave.

Ok here's what he said:

"That's exactly where I have been and that's where I will continue to be...... UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON."

"....UNTIL THE END OF THE SEASON....."

That's what he says after meeting with MCFC?

He's gone.
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Well, not for certain. If would be a great negotiating stance if he prefers to stay but needs them to match an offer or whatever.

MattXG · Sep 20, 2013

Pretty sure RSL's owner already said publicly that they would match whatever NYCFC offered so, again, why would he toss in that last little bit?

He's gone.

zensum · Sep 20, 2013

MasterShake29 said: ↑

How will NYCFC immediately be bigger than NYRB? Bigger names? Who is a bigger name than Henry was? That's a really really short list. Way more money? Um, salary cap dude. More media? Why?

I love delusion.
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Out-of-towners...lol.

Just like those foolish people from all over the world actually who thought the (fake) Cosmos revival was going to blowup in the metro area.

They better be prepared to fight to build a fanbase here.

We've got ours, everyone else starts from scratch.

MattXG · Sep 20, 2013

zensum said: ↑

Out-of-towners...lol.

Just like those foolish people from all over the world actually who thought the (fake) Cosmos revival was going to blowup in the metro area.

They better be prepared to fight to build a fanbase here.

We've got ours, everyone else starts from scratch.
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Stop. Just stop.

You guys are about to become Chivas NYC....

MasterShake29 · Sep 20, 2013

MattXG said: ↑

Stop. Just stop.

You guys are about to become Chivas NYC....
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This post is against forum rules.

KCbus · Sep 20, 2013

You know what? It's not exactly "news" anymore that NYCFC is joining the league in 2015. This thread was meant to discuss their entry and ownership, and there's not much new ground to cover there. Certainly not enough to warrant keeping this thread open for another year and a half. I think if there's any further personnel moves and hires, they can be addressed elsewhere.

Closed.

SoccerPrime · Sep 20, 2013

I have a better idea, move it to the NYC expansion forum:
https://www.bigsoccer.com/community/forums/new-york-city.1273/