NY Daily News article on Metro

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  1. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    Re: Sak O' Shite slams Jonny Walker

    I meant that if Walker had a C year on $ 125k, I was more upset about Pope being a D and SGR being and F, both on $ 270k+.

    I wasn't saying he shouldn't try hard because he wasn't making a lot, just that you look at performance per dollar, and give the player a value. Walker was an ok value this year. The other two were bad values this year.

    And, yes, it's a bit of a punk move to take a cheap shot at a player. But, it works for Steinbrenner. Except when it doesn't. I am very sure Walker wasn't pleased with himself this year, but he wasn't deserving of an individual call out. It's a team game. The team failed.
  2. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    Re: Sak O' Shite slams Jonny Walker

    This whole team pretty much failed. Gaven, Amado and Parke were the only real good players. Leitch did very fine in his role player position. Walker had an okay season. When you're playing in front of several different defensive line ups during the season, that could affect the way you organize it. I'd start the blame else where and then go to Walker because it wasn't his fault that they couldn't score on a wide open header.
  3. swedcrip34

    swedcrip34 New Member

    Mar 17, 2004
    Though I'm not sure I'm "allowed" to post on this forum, here you go:


    traded before the 2004 draft with future considerations to LA for the 11th pick (1st pick of 2nd round). That pick had to be obtained to give it to Chicago (they drafted Leonard Griffin) cause Metrostars owed Chicago at least a top 12 pick in the draft for hiring Coach Bradley (already gave Chicago Rodrigo Faria)


    Why did Metrostars have to go to such measures to get a top 12 pick? Cause they had traded their first round 2004 pick to LA for the 2003 pick they used to get Eddie Gaven. So in some convoluted way you could say this 2005 1st round pick isn't there cause of the move to get Gaven.
  4. silver shadow

    silver shadow New Member

    Mar 18, 2003
    The Sak probabally felt the same way about Moreno Last year. Looks like the Sak has a basic lack of Soccer knowledge.
  5. GIO17

    GIO17 Member

    Nov 29, 1998
    Re: Sak O' Shite slams Jonny Walker

    Thanks for clarifying Jamison. Sorry about lashing out at you.
  6. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. purojogo

    purojogo Member

    Sep 23, 2001
    US/Peru home
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: GM (maybe) slams Jonny Walker

    And this adds a new wrinkle to the story:

    Walker to undergo surgery for rotator cuff tear

    If he was injured since Sept. and getting cortisone shots, you would think the coaching staff/management knew about it..... But i guess by the playoffs it was too late to start giving the back up GK "experience." Bradley is no Andrulis after all ;)
  8. SteveB

    SteveB New Member

    Jun 13, 2003
    Nanuet, NY
    Now with the news of the Walker injury there are two new questions that come to mind. Assuming Bradley knew of the injury, the cortisone injections, and the attempts at self-rehab why did he stay with Walker through the end of the season? A playoff spot was locked up and Wells could have had at least two games to get experience before the playoffs began. If Bradley didn't know then is Walker to be blamed for hiding his injury from the team or is Bradley and/or other members of the coaching staff guilty of inattention that may have contributed to the collapse?
    When do we get good news?
  9. Thomas A Fina

    Thomas A Fina Member

    Mar 29, 1999
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    We're Metro fans. We never get good news.
  10. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    I think Bradley knew, and that even with the pain he likely asked Walker if he could play through it, Walker said yes, and he went with that. He probably thought 75% of Walker was better than 100% of Wells, who-while pretty good- is still a rookie.

    Goalkeeping wasn't our problem down the stretch. And if anyone saw the blinder Walker pulled off in robbing Nelsen in the second half of the first game vs. DC before the Earnie offsides Stewart goal, you wouldn't be wondering about Walker either- injured shoulder or not.

    This does, however, shed a bit of extra light on Nick's comments, specifically: what kind of person calls out an injured player for playing poorly? Did Cashman or Steinbrenner blame Sheff for the Yankees collapse?

    I'm not going to kill Nick for saying what he said- it's his team, he runs it how he wants- but again, that statement tells you as much about the guy making it as the guy he was making it about.
  11. johnnygol

    johnnygol New Member

    Jun 28, 2004
    Why??? taking on Johnny Walker. He wasn't the main factor of our bad season. He had his up and downs like the rest of the team. Nick S. comments show that he doesn't understand soccer at all, just like B Bradley inability to understand that DC was a better team but playing them smart and getting at least one point at the Giant stadium, we had a better chance at RFK (playing counter attack) having DC the obligacion to attack. Playoffs are about tactics that bring positive results. I am sure Nick S. won't understand what I am talking about ( so go ahead blame golkeeping and bring BB back). Suddenly, Nick S knows more than Bruce Arena

  12. Wabbit67

    Wabbit67 Member

    May 19, 2002
    Avon-by-the-Sea, NJ
    Walker had a mediocre year but why pick on him? Let's say Walker stands on his head and shuts DC out for 2 games. What is the result? We're going to PK's because we didn't score!! IS Walker supposed to score goals too?

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