Numbers/Fax Times

Discussion in 'USA Men: World Cup Fans & Travel' started by Palermo10, Dec 14, 2005.

  1. Palermo10

    Palermo10 Member

    Apr 7, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    updated

    # 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
    # 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
    # 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
    # 20XX fax at 4:05CT
    # 30xx at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
    # 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
    # 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
    # 40xx Fax at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
    # 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
    # 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
    # 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
    # 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
    # 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
    # 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
    # 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
    # 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
    # 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.




    out of the 18 faxes listed above, only 3 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.
     
  2. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    In my case, it didn't matter. I had to stop faxing in order to get it to the FEDEX in time for morning delivery.

    That is what I am upset about--the seeming Catch-22. I could have not sent the FEDEX, and continued to try the fax, with the risk of not getting through, which would have screwed me big time, as I would have been sitting at my desk on Tuesday morning with the application in my hand. Instead, I took a different kind of gamble, and sent it in by FEDEX. And don't forget, at no time was it clear that they would continue to accept faxes after business hours.
     
  3. EXboxur

    EXboxur New Member

    Dec 9, 2005
    That would be Taylor Aldridge or username " taylor ". Right when he posted that the USSF said to stop Faxing and FedEx, I believed it :eek: :rolleyes: , but within an hour of that, Fax's started going through. :mad:

    This whole thing smells like a rotten can of tuna. :mad:
     
  4. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    quick note my time was 511PM Eastern not central.
     
  5. s0ccerstud86

    s0ccerstud86 Member

    Aug 19, 2005
    Columbia, Mo
    fax sent 8:33 p.m. ct,
    confirmation #60**
     
  6. Palermo10

    Palermo10 Member

    Apr 7, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    updated

    # 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
    # 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
    # 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
    # 20XX fax at 4:05CT
    # 30xx at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
    # 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
    # 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
    # 40xx Fax at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
    # 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
    # 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
    # 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
    # 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
    # 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
    # 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
    # 600x fax sent 8:33 p.m. ct
    # 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
    # 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
    # 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.




    out of the 19 faxes listed above, only 3 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.
     
  7. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    By the way, someone is saying in the other thread that he fedexed his in, and it arrive at 9:34, and he has gotten a confirmation number already. (30XX)
     
  8. Palermo10

    Palermo10 Member

    Apr 7, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Thats what I think both of us mentioned in another thread- are they going to account for Fedexed applications? Like look at the time it was stamped?

    If his Fedex arrived at 9:34am the next morning, its likely it was stamped at maybe 3-4pm?

    Which would fit with the trend... and thus give hope to the Fedexers
     
  9. Shibb

    Shibb Member

    Feb 22, 2005
    Tampa
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've come to the conclusion that only one thing is absolutely for certain here:

    No matter how they slice this, USSF is going to royally screw/piss off a decent chunk of hardcore fans. A lottery might not have been more in my favor (who knows?), but it would have been a lot easier to swallow than whatever arbitrary measure they end up using. At least it would have been, at least superficially, pure random chance, rather than a crazy race where no one is quite sure of the rules.
     
  10. NASL Fan

    NASL Fan Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Los Angeles, USA
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I agree 100% on the lottery.

    Especially when you look at the small numbers involved...

    Someone said US soccer has an 8% allocation.

    That would be 3,500 tickets for the Czech Rep. game (accroding to FIFA, "purchasable ticket capacity" is 43,920 at the G. stadium for group games), 2,900 for the Italy game and 2,500 for the Ghana game.

    If you figure an average of 3.5 tickets per customer, that's 1,000 requests filled for the Czech Rep. game and even less for Italy and Ghana... Why even say you'll accept Fed Ex when there's a good chance most of the available tickets will be gone via the fax sale by the time the first overnight mail can arrive.

    Bogus.
     
  11. nkuchida

    nkuchida New Member

    Oct 20, 2003
    Just to add to the confusion, I UPS'ed my application in (Delivered at 9:42 on Tuesday) and *just* received a confirmation number of 20xx.
     
  12. Cannon

    Cannon Member

    Arsenal
    United States
    Sep 2, 2001
    Washington, DC metro
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My guess is that the higher ups at USSF have stock in Fedex. Only logical explanation. ;)
     
  13. Palermo10

    Palermo10 Member

    Apr 7, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    updated

    # 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
    # 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
    # 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
    # 20XX faxed at 4:05CT
    # 30xx faxed at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
    # 40xx faxed at 4:15ish Faxon Monday
    # 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
    # 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
    # 40xx faxed at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
    # 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
    # 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
    # 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
    # 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
    # 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
    # 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
    # 600x faxed at 8:33 p.m. ct
    # 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
    # 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
    # 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.
    # 30xx sent via Fedex, arrived 9:34am Tuesday**
    # 20xx sent via UPS, Delivered at 9:42 on Tuesday**


    out of the 20 faxes listed above, only 4 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.


    ** my theory is that the Fedex/UPS applications are time-stamped and whenever that is (which would have been afternoon Monday), that represents their number
     
  14. dfreshsf

    dfreshsf New Member

    Dec 6, 2003
    San Francisco
    # 402x faxed at 6:50pm CT Monday
     
  15. robviii

    robviii Member

    Dec 21, 2001
    Chicago
    The UPS and Fedex numbers are BS; look at the poster/prankster on both occasions; he/she/it has less than 10 posts
     
  16. nkuchida

    nkuchida New Member

    Oct 20, 2003
    Just because I haven't posted here before doesn't mean I'm a prankster!

    I joined back in 2003 and have enjoyed lurking around the forums for a while. I don't really see what I'd stand to gain by giving you a BS confirmation number (unlike sending out a "USSF isn't accepting any more faxes!" message ;) ).
     
  17. Palermo10

    Palermo10 Member

    Apr 7, 2005
    San Diego
    Club:
    Real Madrid
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    updated

    # 103x faxed at 12:25pm CT Monday
    # 130x faxed at 1:45pm CT Monday
    # 201x faxed at 3:00pm CT Monday
    # 20XX faxed at 4:05CT
    # 30xx faxed at 4:11pm BTW 2 seats
    # 40xx faxed at 4:15ish Faxon Monday
    # 301x faxed at 4:20 CT Monday
    # 10xx faxed at 4:21 CT Monday
    # 40xx faxed at 4:48 p.m CT on Monday.
    # 301x faxed at 5:00pm CT Monday
    # 30xx faxed at 5:06pm CT Monday
    # 404x faxed at about 5:10pm Monday
    # 50xx faxed at 5:24pm CT Monday
    # 5xxx faxed at about 6:30pm CT Monday.
    # 402x faxed at 6:50pm CT Monday
    # 20xx faxed at 7:56pm Monday (central?)
    # 600x faxed at 8:33 p.m. ct
    # 60xx faxed at about 9 PM CST Monday
    # 6xxx faxed at 1030pm Monday
    # 61xx faxed at 11:03 pm CST Monday.
    # 30xx sent via Fedex, arrived 9:34am Tuesday**
    # 20xx sent via UPS, Delivered at 9:42 on Tuesday**


    out of the 21 faxes listed above, only about 4 do not make sense if you are looking for a relationship between time and confirmation #.


    ** my theory is that the Fedex/UPS applications are time-stamped and whenever that is (which would have been afternoon Monday), that represents their number
     
  18. nowherenova

    nowherenova Member+

    Jul 20, 2003
    Formerly Terminus
    This is nuts. I am consumed by this. Maybe because this trip is a bachelor party of sorts for me. Gotta get these tix! Go 9:43 fedexers!
     
  19. Etienne_72772

    Etienne_72772 Member+

    Oct 14, 1999
    If so (and I have no reason to think this is true), this is more BullSh|t from USSF. They should have told us that was going to be the case, I would have had mine time-stamped at 12:00:01 on Monday and not stood by the damn fax machine for 6 hours on Monday...

    Just prematurely reacting, that's all...
     
  20. Ricky_DCU

    Ricky_DCU New Member

    Feb 1, 2001
    Somerville, MA
    I FedExed my forms and they arrived at 9:43am Tuesday and I just got an email from the USSF with a confirmation number of 80xx.
     
  21. roadkit

    roadkit Greetings from the Fringe of Obscurity

    Jul 2, 2003
    Fornax Cluster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I know everyone is hung up on the "number of fax machines" but I spoke to someone at USSF and they told me all the faxes were recieved by computer - think about it. You can "fax" from your computer - you can also receive a "fax" on your computer. They said they were printing them out so any rumors of broken faxes, nightmares of fax machines without paper, etc... didn't happen.


    On the other hand, I can only think that whoever is out there in America that sent in their order but does not post on Bigsoccer must be in a much happier place than all of us. :D
     
  22. Old Man!

    Old Man! BigSoccer Supporter

    RIP Chicago Fire
    Mar 11, 2000
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    7:09 FedEx F. Furtal.....

    Nothing yet.

    It's probably on the bottom of the pile. That's why I paid $60 to get it there by 8:00. yup. That was money well spent. :rolleyes:
     
  23. NattyBo

    NattyBo Member+

    Apr 30, 2004
    Nunya
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    --other--
    Hmm, you were on the 9:43 FedEx and got 80xx as well? Looks like a trend emerging.. :p
     
  24. Galaxian

    Galaxian Member

    Oct 30, 2005
    Newport Beach, CA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was also at the 9:43 delivery but i have gotten no confirmation yet ? I hope I get it soon .. I'm a nervous wreck!
     
  25. DUSL

    DUSL New Member

    Dec 14, 2005
    First off, thanks to everyone on this board for all the info. My first week here and I'm quite impressed.
    I'm a madfaxer who after hours of attempts ended up FedExing. Mine arrived at 7:09 and signed by Furtal. I just got a confirmation of 805X .
    What upsets me is that I see people who's FedEx's arrived at 9amish with lower numbers. Hmmmm.
    But--all is probably not lost.
    Note that all the numbers are X0XX. So it does not appear they are using the second digit. That means for me in the 805X range there are 750 people in front of me. Assuming all bought 4 tickets, 750x4=3000. So I should be in the ballpark for tickets.
    Nonetheless, given how FUBAR this whole process is, the only fair thing to do is to take all orders received on Monday or Tuesday and put them in a lottery.
    Any thoughts?
     

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