Not a true Christian: Debate Christianity and Religion's role in Politics

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  1. soccernutter

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    Na, I don't think so. First, blue cities in red states will keep expanding. Atlanta is a prime example, but I'm also thinking Research Triangle. And then there is the metro DC expansion in to VA. Sure, the Reps will try and restrict voting, but both Georgia and Wisconsin have shown that good organization can beat out restrictive voting practices. And because the blue areas will keep growing, I'm not sure how a HoR will ever get enough votes to have an override of any bill vetoed by the President. The one place this will such is the Senate. But even then, it is not like either part will reach a 60 member majority, at least in the short to middle term future.
     
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  2. song219

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    So god is only concerned about picking non important things for you like your religion but not something as fundamental as your sexual orientation.
     
  3. soccernutter

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    Have you tested that philosophy with her?
     
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  4. bigredfutbol

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    If it has Combat, I know what I want for Christmas.
     
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    I hope you're right, but it won't be an easy fight. States rights conservatives are going to do everything they can to squeeze the golden goose as hard as possible.
     
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  6. Sounders78

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    As if a 60-member majority will be necessary when Republicans control everything. It's not like they are going to adhere to it if it doesn't serve their purpose.
     
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    Activision was really crushing it back in the day.
     
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    When my son was little we had a Wii, and you could play some of the classic Nintendo games on there. First time I played Super Mario Bros I won it, the muscle memory was still intact 20 years later.
     
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    Republicans will just reduce the number to 50+ because they don't care about your stupid rules.
     
  10. song219

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    It doesn't matter what you want, god's already decided.
     
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  12. argentine soccer fan

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    She needs to be consistent here. If some of your choices (like your religion) are predestined by
    God, then logically that would apply to all your choices - like for example your sexual orientation.

    Well, Calvin was the one who needed to be consistent, she's probably just a follower.
     
  13. Sounders78

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    Returning to this comment, The Guardian has an article on the documentary 1946 which focuses on the mistranslation of arsenokoites to "homosexuals" in the RSV and other subsequent translations, marking the first time the Bible explicitly condemned all gay people.


    What the author of the article leaves out is that the gay seminary student mentioned is a former minister (I think) from Canada who died recently. They had tracked him down and got his story before his death. As a disclaimer, I know Kathy Baldock and we have communicated many times on related topics, although I have no connection to the documentary.
     
  14. usscouse

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    Wouldn’t that be special.
     
  15. argentine soccer fan

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    He'll take Christ out and change the name to Xianity.
     
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  16. song219

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    Good riddance.
    Everyone knows that Christ was woke anyway.
     
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  17. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    Which begs the question. What would JC wear to pull this off?

     
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  18. rslfanboy

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    Tim Alberta wrote a book about growing up as the son of an evangelical pastor, a very popular one at that, and how Christians need to sack up and speak out against the political radicalization of the faith. He did an interview I heard today, if you’d like.

    I’m sympathetic to this argument, as I used to be Mormon and tried to do so myself, but ultimately realized I wasn’t really Mormon as my beliefs were way out of step of my fellow congregants, and apparently the Church leaders.

    The point being, if you call yourself Christian, and especially evangelical Christian, it is your responsibility to fix your church. Just like with the GOP, it isn’t the Dems’ responsibility, or anyone else’s, to fix its turn to the whacko right. Speak up and don’t let these crazies represent you to the world.
     
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  19. Chesco United

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    The controversial Church of Wells denounced Osteen in his church. They were charged, but not convicted.
     
  20. Chesco United

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    I'm Christian in the Vineyard Moment. We refer to ourselves as Empowered Evangelicals. My pastor has said, "I don't care if you're a Republican or a Democrat." I'm open to further questions.
     
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  21. Cascarino's Pizzeria

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    "Fixing" would necessitate the end of the leadership grift. Republicans would disavow free markets & racism before that ever happens.
     
  22. deejay

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    This is an interesting topic to me since my son was doing a report on this earlier. The big issue for the US is children raised by only one parent. Indeed, you have the highest rate in the world. It's not just because of divorce but also because separation is twice as high in cohabitating couples. Finally, you do not have extended families. Why is that a problem? Because children raised by only a single parent undoubtedly have worse outcomes. In essence, the US family is not doing either cohabitation, marriage or divorce right in any shape or form.
     
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  23. rslfanboy

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    I think it would also be other Evangelicals, who are not into the grift, to come out and vociferously denounce the grifters.
     
  24. rslfanboy

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    I agree that this is an issue. It should be more common. But it is dogma that you are a failure if you don't move out of the house, and the parent is a failure if their kids don't strike out on their own. I think that's silly. However, it's hard to get freaky with your in-laws on the other side of the wall.
    This is dogma, comparing single/divorced parents with couples that stay together. We have no idea if parents staying in a toxic relationship "for the sake of the kids" is actually better for the kids or not.
     
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  25. Chesco United

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    I have personally denounced the New Apostolic Reformation and figures like Rick Joyner. Dobson, too.
     
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