No more just the big blond backup - The comrade Lunin thread

Discussion in 'Real Madrid' started by Hendrix22, Aug 11, 2023.

  1. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    #76 arcane, Dec 1, 2023
    Last edited: Dec 1, 2023
    I have no problem with that.

    I just cant see how the club justifies Kepa. He's not at all that much better.
     
  2. 4x4s

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    Nov 26, 2006
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    I don't think we're keeping Kepa around unless he's an absurd bargain and fair game about being a substite.
     
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  3. Hendrix22

    Hendrix22 Member+

    Feb 28, 2010
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    For me Lunin has passed the big test this season and he deserves to stay, compete with Thibaut and take over fully in a year or two. He is a stabilizing presence, calm with the ball and pretty much does everything at a high level. Happy for him and the way he jumped at the chance he was given, shows mental fortitude.
     
  4. rrrrrafik

    rrrrrafik Member

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    Aug 26, 2007
    London
    I think it depends on how Courtois recovers from the knee injury. Before that happened it didn’t look like he would be slowing down within a year or two.
     
  5. 4x4s

    4x4s Moderator
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    Nov 26, 2006
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    He's going to be a hot free agent this summer, who knows what happens in two years. He'll be offered big bucks and starting jobs this summer.

    We'll need to make a decision to either let him hold the position and pay him accordingly or let him go.
     
  6. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    Agreed, happy for him too, he’s been patient, he’ll have a decision to make for sure.
     
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  7. .halamadrid2.

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    Nov 5, 2010
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  8. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    We will need him to up that to 90% vs Shitty
     
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  9. saadomar

    saadomar Member+

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    Mar 21, 2013
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    Nah. We need 100%. Scoring against them is a tall task.
     
  10. J-Mezzy

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    Oct 14, 2013
    Orlando
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    Both Jude and Vini will score over the 2 ties

    that much im certain of
     
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  11. Digital

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    Dec 10, 2012
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    This is more like it, positive stuff, no disputing City is a very very good team, but so are we, it will not be easy but I’m feeling good about this tie.
     
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  12. MerlinRM

    MerlinRM Member+

    May 5, 2014
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    Its his time to shine.

    Hope Flo is writing up his extension as we speak.
     
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  13. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    He has done incredibly well this season, but his long term trajectory at this club may be defined by the games to come in this season. He needs to have some big Champions League performances to alter the long-term plan of the club at the position.
     
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  14. hector_br

    hector_br Member+

    Feb 13, 2007
    We won't see Tibo any time soon. I can't think of any decent GKs in the market. Lunin has to be the man for the job.
     
  15. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    Not impossible, he’s already one of the main reasons we’ve made it this far, getting past Leipzig, ( and personally I don’t think we can judge keepers just on CL performances alone, lots of luck involved there as everyone knows, consistency over a season should also count, especially if we win the league).

    I’m not sure what the long term plan of the club is with regards to keepers past Tbo, right now Lunin fits as good as any other, don’t think we’ll be keeping Kepa, the club just invested in a youngster, is he the long term plan? asking because I don’t know him and he seems very young
     
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  16. arcane

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    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    Lunin has already made borderline world class saves. I dunno what some people want more from him.

    For me, I'd make Thibo earn his spot next year. If he wants out, then the team can move on. If Thibo regains his form and Lunin wants out, sell him with a buyback good for at least 2 years. Then get him back once Thibo slows down.
     
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  17. INST

    INST Member

    Real Madrid
    Aug 15, 2023
    He is weak in the air. And for me, he takes way too much time on the ball and proceeding to lose it after. One thing to note is that with Kroos on the pitch, he is the one to guide him to move the ball quicker and into the right space.

    We’ll see how he does in the CL big games. Has been stable so far, some mishaps here and there (especially at the beginning, but that was expected). I think if he can prove to be reliable in those crucial games, might be another Navas situation (assuming Tibo does not get back to his old self).
     
  18. MiamiNative0722

    MiamiNative0722 Member+

    May 25, 2013
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    To be blunt, if he gets shredded against Man City, I think that could have an impact whether the club believes he’s the long term answer after Courtois. Conversely, if he puts in a few world class performances in the champions league, there is also the other extreme possibility that he benches Courtois going forward.

    Either way, it makes sense to renew him given the uncertainty with Courtois and based on what Lunin has already done, but his performances going forward could determine the size of the renewal
     
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  19. YOUNGSTARS87

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    Dec 21, 2005
    Courtois conceded 4 in one match against City.

    Lunin has been great. If we lose it's most likely because of how our manager set us up than Lunin making multiple errors but you never know
     
  20. MiamiNative0722

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    May 25, 2013
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    #95 MiamiNative0722, Mar 20, 2024
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    This isn’t to say he wasn’t still world-class, and obviously I can’t add all the context of the defense, but I do think Courtois had dropped a bit of a level in 22/23 compared to the insanely goat level he showed in 21/22. It wasn't just the City game, we did concede slightly more in every competition. In part, he was also overshadowed by Ter-Stegen who had a career year.

    All the more reason to renew Lunin and hope he continues to show a level genuinely competitive with Courtois long-term. We will see if he can do it on the biggest stages.
     
  21. arcane

    arcane Member+

    Aug 18, 2005
    Philippines
    I disagree. I think he's at least average in the air.

    Weak is Kepa.
     
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  22. Anon.

    Anon. Member+

    Sep 4, 2007
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    Agree. Stats don't tell the whole story, but this shows that he can't be totally terrible in the air:
     
  23. Digital

    Digital Member+

    Dec 10, 2012
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    Agreed, I also disagree with the idea that he takes too long with the ball at his feet and then “loses” it, for me this is the one and only area that he is superior to Tbo, much more accurate with distribution, long or short but especially long, and he actually plays the ball into midfield to start plays far far more often, it’s good to see something a bit different.
     
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  24. INST

    INST Member

    Real Madrid
    Aug 15, 2023
    That’s fair, just less than ideal.

    Here is hoping he keeps improving his game. We will need it.
     
  25. HZinho

    HZinho Member+

    Apr 2, 2013
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    Real Madrid
    Exactly. In fact, I'm actually very impressed with how comfortable Lunin is with the ball at his feet. It's a joy to watch and very helpful for the game we want to play. Courtois does a decent enough job at it too btw, but doesn't pass the eye test at all, haha. Looks quite sluggish at times with the ball at his feet, and it frightens me. But hey, Courtois is Courtois, the definition of elite. Very happy with these two!
     
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