NJSEA and Giants come to last-minute agreement

Discussion in 'New York Red Bulls' started by sachinag, Sep 23, 2003.

  1. bofahey

    bofahey Member

    Sep 1, 2001
    Washington, DC
  2. sccrhound

    sccrhound Member

    Oct 8, 2002
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: NJSEA and Giants come to last-minute agreement

    Mabe...and maybe this pushes uncle phil to pony up more money, especially since he sold the rapids
  3. jamison

    jamison Member

    Sep 25, 2000
    I like the other sachin better.
  4. sachinag

    sachinag New Member

    Jun 19, 2001
    Saint Louis, MO
    Only cause my team is better than yours and his isn't.
  5. JeffGMc

    JeffGMc Member

    Oct 14, 2000
    New York City
    Chicago Fire
  6. Mr Fish

    Mr Fish Member

    Feb 2, 1999
    W. Orange <-> NYC
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  7. patrickdavila

    patrickdavila Member

    Jan 13, 1999
    Easton, PA
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the football stadium at Rutgers is more likely. I saw the U.S. vs Colombia in 95 and it's not a bad place. The worse thing about it is the amount of traffic in the area.
  8. Matt in the Hat

    Matt in the Hat Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 21, 2002
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And the fact that most of the NY fans just won't go to Rutgers unless it is a special occasion.
  9. Peoria FC

    Peoria FC Member

    Feb 22, 2001
    That and the fact that it's roughly 18 million miles out of town. [​IMG]
  10. Section113

    Section113 New Member

    Feb 26, 1999
    And what town would that be?
  11. Kevin

    Kevin New Member

    Perhaps the one with 8 million people.....
  12. red&black1

    red&black1 New Member

    Mar 8, 2003
    Kearny NJ
    I wouldn't be too smug about your team right about now... the Dallas and New England game doesn't say much about the Fire's end of season form does it? and in this league thats all that matters...
  13. sachinag

    sachinag New Member

    Jun 19, 2001
    Saint Louis, MO
    Um, guys...

    I just want to point out that the "OK, seriously" means that I really don't think you all are screwed. And yes, I know my team appears to be going down faster than, oh never mind. We beat the Gals. Hope to have you at NSF.

    Question: is there a train from NYC to New Brunswick, in the case that the Metros would play at Rutgers?
  14. cmonaco

    cmonaco New Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    How much more screwed would we be in another stadium than we are now in Giants Stadium?

    Frankly, anything which gets Metro to move into another stadium -- ANY other stadium -- is a positive development.

    There are plenty of options in the event that the GS renovations force Metro out for a year or two. Rutgers, Columbia, Riverfront in Newark, a "temporary" stadium at Aqueduct, St. Johns, Long Island, etc.

    None of these options are perfect, and some of them are unlikely for a number of reasons. Maybe Metro can rotate amongst different stadiums, and play some big games at Shea. Who the hell knows.

    Regardless, they will figure out a solution, and it will probably be a better one than the current situation at GS where they won't even clean up the lines for us and there are 60k empty seats and hostile security and all the other ridiculousness. If they can find a solution where 10-15k people can go to watch Metro play somewhere in or near the metro area, I can deal.
  15. obie

    obie New Member

    Nov 18, 1998
    NY, NY
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering that the renovations will take two years, there has to be some way to hold events there during construction since the Jets & Giants both need the stadium for their 2005 season. Maybe they'll start with upper deck renovations in the spring/summer of '05, not do anything during the fall when the NFL is in session, then move to renovating the lower deck & mezzanine in spring/summer '06 when Metro will be gone.

    If we have to be out during construction, perhaps it's possible to do something modular in Harrison for '05 if necessary, or use Riverfront (especially since the future of the Bears is reportedly shaky). Considering how badly the Burn are doing, and that we only got 3,000 at Yurcak for the USOC match, I don't think they'd want to relocate to the big stadium and abandon their fan base in North Jersey.
  16. microbrew

    microbrew New Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    Here's an article with more details:

    The Giant are completely funding the renovations on their own, while the Jets (and the Metros) are bystanders. The Giants keep all the money from football and split fifty percent of the net revenue from nonfootball events. The Giants also get two-thirds of the money from corporate naming rights.
    The optimistic timeframe is to start construction in 2004, and complete it in two years.

    It will be interesting to see what the official Jets reaction will be. Some other tidbits:
    "[Zoffinger] added that he expected the new stadium to attract enough business so that the sports authority would keep enough revenue to repay the $160 million in outstanding stadium debt that the state subsidizes."
    "The team is exploring an option to turn the mezzanine into club seating."
  17. Soccerski

    Soccerski Member

    Dec 2, 2000
    Georgetown, CT
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Is "Club Seating" a real money maker? For the NFL? For MLS? What has the Galaxian experience with selling the Club Seats at HDC?

    Club seats take up almost 16,000 seats at Fed Ex, all the best seats in the second tier at Gillette. It seems like it takes away seat from the real fans, and give it to corporate types who use it as it as a Dining Club.

    AEG has to be considering it for Harrison
  18. Kevin

    Kevin New Member

    Club seating is a BIG deal in the NFL because the home team does not have to share a penny of club and luxury box seating with their opponent. The 2 NFL teams playing on any given day share the gate for the regular seats. So, the Giants have 124 club seats and the Redskins have 15,000. That's a big difference in terms of revenue that the Redskins get to keep for themselves.
  19. soccerfan

    soccerfan BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 13, 1999
    New Jersey
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is a stadium in Paterson where the New Jersey Eagles played while in the A league that was before MLS started up. The stadium sits around 1o k (not sure) but looks decent and its off Rt 80 . I don't even know if that stadium is available its been 8, 9 years ago but could be a temporary solution.
  20. JensPH

    JensPH New Member

    Jul 13, 1999
    Re: Um, guys...

    There's a train. It takes 50 minutes from Penn Station NYC to New Brunswick, but the sport fields are not near the station. There is a campus bus. There's a walk, wait, and ride that all together adds about another 30 minutes.

    If a temporary solution is needed, then there will have to be reliable, quick transportation from NYC. Rutgers doesn't cut it.
  21. bukie2k

    bukie2k Member

    Mar 28, 2002
    New Jersey
    I believe you are refering to Hinchcliffe (sp?) Stadium. While being a good alternative in a pinch, last I heard the place needed a lot of work.
  22. Frieslander

    Frieslander Member
    Staff Member

    Feb 14, 2000
    North Jersey
    Hinchcliff has worse astroturf than the old Vet in Philly. The city of Paterson has talked about refurbishing it. Metro could never play there because there's no place to park. Fixed up it'd be good for a lower division team.
  23. Metros Striker10

    Metros Striker10 New Member

    Jul 7, 2001
    Planet Earth
    How 'bout we play where the Jets and Giants will play? I know that they could probably play through the construction (having the construction during the NFL off-season), but still. Even if that's the plan, they need a back up plan just incase there's a stall. Also, can they redesign/rebuild an entire top tier of 20K seats in a few months?
  24. nyrmetros

    nyrmetros Member

    Feb 7, 2004
    The head of the NJSEA was on MSG on the show Angles with Al Trautwig..... he said that construction will start after the 2004 NFL season. he also said that no construction would take place during the following NFL seasons. Construction would take place during the summer, and their summer events at Gianats Stadium would be severely rolled back.

    Does this mean the Metros will have to find a temporary home till Harrison is built?

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