Next Cycle U-20s

Discussion in 'Youth National Teams' started by k1v1n, Nov 28, 2003.

  1. k1v1n

    k1v1n New Member

    May 4, 2002
  2. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gersman,

    Any info on the YAs that are currently U18s and who are on the radar? (other than Flores)

    Here are the 12 U17s from Finland on the list:

    Adu, Freddy
    Ashe, Corey
    Curfman, Steven
    DiRaimondo, John
    Gaven, Eddie
    Germani, Chris
    Gonzales, Guillermo
    Marfuggi, Phil
    Owen, Brandon
    Spector, Jonathan
    Szetela, Daniel
    Watson, Jamie

    Finland U17s not on the list:

    Helton, Kyle
    Harrington, Mike
    Grazier, Brian
    Valentin, Julian
    Chevannes, Adrian
    Westberg, Quentin
    Peterson, Jacob
    Sandbo, Stephen

    Probably shouldn't read too much into Westberg's omission as he's a Goalkeeper overseas.

    Alvarez would have made this U20 cycle, so he's a welcome addition to the U17 core. Flores is playing in Argentina, so he may be interesting. Barrett has had a very good Freshman season for UCLA.
     
  3. Bumptious Rex

    Bumptious Rex New Member

    Mar 3, 2002
    I think Coach Rongen has done his homework. There have been many posts about Kyle Helton on these boards, so he may be a surprise to some. From the U-18s, Cristman and Ianni are missing. It's hard to argue against these selections, however. Adu, Gaven, Barrett, Alvarez--nice. Hopefully, there will be some scrimmages or games open to spectators.
     
  4. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Regulars from the U-18 team that are missing include Danny Vasquez, Adam Cristman, Pat Ianni and Isaac Collings (injured??).

    Vasquez is an attacking midfielder. Cristman is a classic target forward and the other two are defensive midfielders, IIRC.

    Nate Norman is a little bit of a surprise since he hasn't play much for Notre Dame this fall.

    But, Rongen has brought together most of the starters from the U-17 and U-18 teams. I'm sure he'll bring in more players in the future camps.
     
  5. KR

    KR New Member

    Jan 5, 2000
    Issac Collings was red-shirted due to knee injury at Syracuse. Adam Cristman had a good year at UVA but not an eye opening spectacular year.

    Now that UVA's Big George doesn't select the roster for training camp, UVA only got one player into camp, Will Hall, a deserving choice. Will Hall go pro this year or wait another year?
     
  6. KR

    KR New Member

    Jan 5, 2000
    Last year's list of players

    2003 Roster of Players:

    Alvarez, Arturo F Houston, TX (Bear Creek United)

    Barrett, Chad F Beaverton, OR (West Side Metro Rangers)

    Brill, Sam D Newton, MA (FC Greater Boston Bolts)

    Burch, Marc F Cincinnati, OH

    Burke, Ryan GK Cumberland, ME (Southern Maine Premier)

    Capano, Craig MF Hyde Park, NY (Chicago Fire)

    Cristman, Adam F Glen Allen, VA (Richmond Strikers)

    Collings, Isaac MF Oriskany, NY (Syracuse Blitz Blizzard)

    Dalby, Greg D Poway, CA (San Diego Surf)

    Freeman, Hunter D Allen, TX (University of Virginia)

    Guzan, Brad GK Lockport, IL (Chicago Magic)

    Hall, William MF Shirley, NY (Eastmeadow Hawks)

    Johnson, Paul F Princeton, NJ (University of Virginia)

    Karbassiyoon, Danny F Roanoke, VA (Roanoke Stars)

    Kargbo, Abdul D Alexandria, VA (DC United U-18s)

    Kartunen, Andrew GK San Juan Capistrano, CA (Irvine Strikers)

    Lowry, Peter MF Irvine, CA (Irvine Strikers)

    Norman, Nate F Rochester, MI (Vardar III)

    Phelan, Patrick D Enfield, CT (Oakwood SC)

    Roman, David MF Monroeville, NJ (Pittsgrove Phantoms)

    Smith, Kareem D Hyde Park, MA (Beaver Country Day HS)

    Vasquez, Danny MF Miami, Fl

    Vide, Joe, MF Raleigh, NC (University of Virginia)

    Zayner, Jed D Orland Park, IL (Chicago Magic)
     
  7. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Actually, UVa had two players selected, Hall and Hunter Freeman.

    Christman didn't have a great freshmen year but he finished with goals in each of the Cavs' three NCAA games so that might get him a look in the future, though I suspect this group will have better forwards.

    Speaking of players who should be called up, based on their freshmen years I think Rongen should consider the following.

    BACKS
    Steve Purdy, D, Cal (2/5/85)
    21 games, 19 starts, 0 goals, 0 assists, 1.06 team g.a.a.

    Georgios Spanos, D, St. John’s (6/12/85)
    21 games, 21 starts, 0 goals, 1 assist, 0.73 team g.a.a.

    Chad Steuck, D, Virginia Tech (1/27/85)
    20 games, 20 starts, 0 goals, 1 assist, 0.91 team g.a.a.

    MIDS
    Brian Grazier, M, Saint Louis (3/17/86)
    21 games, 21 starts, 0 goals, 0 assists, 1.07 team g.a.a.

    Ryan Guy, M, San Diego (9/5/85)
    19 games, 19 starts, 3 goals, 3 assists

    Will John, F/M, Saint Louis (6/13/85)
    19 games, 14 starts, 9 goals, 3 assists

    *Ramon Nunez, M, Southern Methodist (11/14/85)
    18 games, 15 starts, 4 goals, 10 assists

    FORWARDS
    *Omar Alfonso, F, Loyola, Md. (2/12/85)
    21 games, 21 starts, 17 goals, 6 assists

    Robert Findley, F, Oregon State (8/4/85)
    18 games, 11 starts, 10 goals, 2 assists

    *Not born in the United States – I know Nunez isn’t a US citizen yet and I’m not sure about Alfonso though he grew up in the States and was in the ODP Region I system. But, I'd still like to see Rongen give them a look.

    I'll add others I'd like to see Rongen look at as I think of them or hear about them and encourage others to make suggestions too.
     
  8. k1v1n

    k1v1n New Member

    May 4, 2002
    One other UVA player that I think is deserving of a look is Ryan Burke. The kid played out of his mind in the ACCs, and was a big factor in the run UVA made at the end of the season. If I was picking the team I'd bring in Burke over Marfuggi.
     
  9. JimmieLivealot

    JimmieLivealot New Member

    Oct 22, 2002
    Austin, TX
    Speaking of talented fish what is the statues of Vedad Ibisevic? From everything I've heard he's been really electric at St Louis.
     
  10. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Burke is too old to make the next U-20 team. Unfortunately, GG abuses his position as U-18 coach to bring in undeserving UVa players, recruits, and potential recruits from the younger age-groups.

    Kiel McClung from UCLA should be added to the U-20 player pool list. He receives quite a bit of PT for the Bruins as a right sided player. But, he's versatile enough to play forward and maybe central defense.

    Also, Junior Ybarra from Loyola Marymount deserves a look. He's techincal midfielder that was named 2nd Team WCC this season.
     
  11. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    He is too old ('84) to play for the next U-20 team and probably doesn't have citizenship either.
     
  12. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    U-18 Player Pool

    Complete 2003 U-18 Player Pool ('85 age Group)

    Andrew Kartunen GK Stanford
    Greg Dalby CB Notre Dame
    Hunter Freeman LB Virginia
    William Hall DM Virginia
    Patrick Ianni DM UCLA
    Arturo Alvarez LM Quakes
    Chad Barrett F UCLA
    Adam Cristman F Virginia
    Nathan Norman RB Notre Dame
    Craig Capano AM Fire
    Ryan Solle D Wake Forest
    Patrick Phelan LCB (Wake Forest)
    Danny Vasquez M (?)
    Paul Johnson* CB Virginia
    Isaac Collings M Syracuse
    Danny Karbassiyoon* F Arsenal
    Brad Guzan* GK S Carolina
    Marc Burch* F Evansville
    Jed Zayner LB Indiana
    Kareem Smith D South Fla
    Ryan Burke* GK Virginia
    Sam Brill D Bost Coll
    Abdul Kargbo* D Louisburg JC
    Peter Lowry M (Santa Clara)
    Joe Vide* AM Virginia
    David Roman F Seton Hall
    Sergio Flores F Chac Jrs.
    Mike Zaher LB (?)
    Ryan Best GK Virginia
    Mike Videria** M (Duke)
    Justin Papadakis GK (Duke)
    Kiel McClung F UCLA
    Dane Murphy** M (Virginia)

    * born in 1984 not eligible for U-20 WC in 2005
    ** born in 1986.
    ( ) 2004 recruit for the program
     
  13. KR

    KR New Member

    Jan 5, 2000
    *Omar Alfonso, F, Loyola, Md. (2/12/85)
    21 games, 21 starts, 17 goals, 6 assists

    Alfonso will be there with the Region 1 85 ODP team. The 85 ODP inter-regionals is part of the camp. Rongan will get a good look at Alfonso, the player Big George rejected to put Cristman on the national team.

    Mike Videria** M (Duke)

    Big George wined and dined this player. He even gave Videria, an 86, a spot on the 85 national team. All that love and the kid commits to Duke. So much for gratitude!

    Yes, I missed Hunter Freeman. He had a great year at UVA and deserves a shot at the U20's.
     
  14. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Re: U-18 Player Pool

    I don't know that its correct (though they usually are), but according to this link, Zayner was born 12/13/1984 which obviously makes him too old for the current U20s.

    http://www.topdrawersoccer.com/TrainingGround/1042322966/view
     
  15. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    KR, do you know if Alfonso is a US citizen yet?

    His Loyola bio says he was born in Colombia but it sounds like he's lived here for a while.

    http://loyolagreyhounds.ocsn.com/sports/m-soccer/mtt/alfonso_omar00.html
     
  16. NJGUY

    NJGUY New Member

    Sep 23, 2002
    Omars not a citizen. As for Will Hall hes a baller and I think he should go pro.
     
  17. davide

    davide Member

    Mar 1, 2001
    Re: Re: U-18 Player Pool

    Yeah, Zayner should've had an asterick by his name.

    Another player to consider for the player pool is the former Bradenton player Josh Villalobos. He was once considered the top prospect in this age-group, but his stock has been rapidly declining over the past few years.

    However, when the ODP teams went to Brazil last winter the Brazilians identified Nunez and Villalobos as standouts from our Regional teams. He started 17 games for Furman this season with (1G, 7A, 9pts).
     
  18. GersMan

    GersMan Member

    May 11, 2000
    Indianapolis
    Haven't seen a U18 list yet, but I would expect to see Julian Valentin (Wake) Dax McCarty (UNC), Rod Hidalgo (USF), Nathan Sturgis (Clemson) from the current U17 team to be included, perhaps others.

    You might also see some top recruits, Israel Jones from SMU, Stephen King from Maryland, Jeremy Barlow from UVA.

    Just speculation at this point.
     
  19. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Wouldn't all the 87s who are currently in residency be part of the next U18 pool and if not, what are they doing in residency?
     

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