I think it's hard to say how the group would react, but this is one factor that I would worry less about given Cherundolo's bio. First, there's his experience as a player. He's been a part of three cycles. He had successes and some failures. He can communicate that he was in the position these players are in and can speak to what works and doesn't/ He also understands lots of other details about their experiences, like cross atlantic travel that are particular to this group. Then there's his reputation as a young coach. More than other MLS guys, he's dealt with well-known players and hired experienced assistants. You never know exactly how these people feel, but so far, I haven't heard bad things about how he deals with these situations
If it is someone like Dolo who won’t overawe the players, he can get what he needs from discipline. If that is not his style maybe he’s not the right guy. Hudson implied that some of these guys may need snot feel super accountable.
Keeping track of the coaching carousel ... Former Iceland and Jamaica manager Heimir Hallgrímsson has been appointed the new Republic of Ireland head coach, the Football Association of Ireland confirmed on Wednesday. The decision to appoint Hallgrímsson to the role ends the country's eight-month search {} for a permanent successor to Stephen Kenny whose contract was not extended following the team's failure to qualify for Euro 2024. The 57-year-old was joint head coach of his native Iceland when they shocked England in the round of 16 at Euro 2016. Hallgrímsson took sole charge of the national team from 2016 to 2018, leading the country to qualification for the World Cup in Brazil in Russia and an all-time high FIFA ranking of 18th. He was manager of Jamaica from 2022 to 2024, helping the team qualify for the 2024 Copa América and improving their ranking from 64th to 53rd. https://www.espn.com/soccer/story/_...ireland-appoint-heimir-hallgrimsson-new-coach {My }
Yeah, seems like maybe some action in that direction, which makes me happy. These monstruous threads are hard to navigate but there likely is some discussion of him on this one. About that 2022 Argentina win... I dug a bit to refresh my memory after seeing the link of his halftime speech. (Everyone who cares should watch it; this isn't the official Fox one that was posted. On one hand, the xG (something like 2+ to 0.5 or less) in that game tell the tale: KSA hit the luck jackpot, statistically speaking. Hiring a coach is predictive, so it hurts me to admit: That win is not the major accomplishment it seems. That said, there is process-oriented stuff to love beyond xG. They fought hard down 1-0 at half -- you can see in the video that his passion landed with the team even in translation to Arabic -- and, well, stats and randomness can't explain everything. The goals were well-taken. And even a lucky win over Argentina -- world champion Argentina! -- gains internal and external credibility. Players know he can win. Dual-nats perceive the hire as serious. The media, and maybe even a few fans, don't hound him for 2 years for not being Vaporware Candidate Who Would Jump to Take This Job That I Just Know Exists but Can't Put My Finger On. They played about an even xG game against Poland and were less dominated by Mexico, so in xG terms he took maybe the 31st team in the WC and got maybe 25-30ish results. I'm downgrading Qatar in my reasons to like him. Not just Qatar There are other good things, of course: AFCON trophies with Zambia and Côte d'Ivoire, one a huge outsider, the other pretty loaded. WCQ with Morocco and KSA, the latter winning a group including Japan. Elo is helpful (though eloratings.net has only an annual archive -- dude has an annoying habit of changing jobs midyear!) Summary KSA was decently improved. Morocco was hugely improved. Ivory Coast was flat in Elo on his watch but won AFCON Things dropped off at Zambia after the AFCON (doesn't look like he was fired though, went to Sochaux instead). In Elo terms his best jobs have been his most recent, which is nice to see. Ivory Coast was the most similar level to the US, and he didn't improve their Elo terribly much. KSA - July 2019 to March 2023 (successful WCQ) 2018 (all these are end-of-year): rank 62nd 2019: 68th -- 2022: 54th Morocco - Feb 2016 to July 2019 (successful WCQ) 2015 : 76th -- 2018: 37th 2019: 47th Ivory Coast - Jul '14 to May '15 (won AFCON) 2013: 24th 2014: 36th 2015: 33rd Zambia - May '08 to Oct '13 minus a full year in late 2010-2011 (won AFCON; quarterfinals of AFCON) 2008: 78th --- 2012: 68th 2013: 91st Overall I believe NTs and clubs are different, so I have a strong bias toward someone who's improved non-elite NTs, both on fundamentals (proxied by Elo) and occasional moments of brilliance. I want us to hire him.
There goes my hope that we could improve the lads' standard of play and their dental hygiene all with one hire.
Why wouldn’t he get a fair shake from the players? Did Argentina’s players not give Scaloni’s coach a fair shake despite him having less experience than Cherundolo when he took the job? What about Columbia’s coach, did they not give him a fair shake?
This BBC article that David Moyes wrote makes me want to move him higher up the list of names I'd like to see on a USMNT interview list. https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/cj50mjen0gvo
Stuttgart - check out who they let go (their best players) and who they brought in just before the season Matarazzo was let go. He had nothing to play with.
I don’t think right now but I do think he’ll be interested at some point in the future. He’s said at various points in interviews that he wants to coach in the US and some point and give back to the game here. I think the timing just isn’t quite right yet on his end.
He definitely seems to be the sort of foreign coach that is gettable. This is what Tim Howard had to say about him https://www.toffeeweb.com/season/23-24/news/44791.html “David Moyes is the greatest manager I ever played for. I stand before you today to tell you that if he asked me to run through the gates of Hell seven days a week, I'd smash them every single day because that's how great it was. “He instilled in me leadership, accountability, responsibility, taught me to be mature… I grew up into the person that I always hoped I'd be playing for David Moyes.”
After watching this Herve speech, I don't think he would be a cultural fit for the team. I know he inspired Saudi Arabia to come back and win, but honestly it was a one time fluke. Hervé Renard's halftime speech during Saudi Arabia's matchup with Argentina will have anyone ready to take on the best player in the world 😤 pic.twitter.com/StTXR0vehM— FOX Soccer (@FOXSoccer) November 26, 2022
You mean like this guy? Hervé Renard's halftime speech during Saudi Arabia's matchup with Argentina will have anyone ready to take on the best player in the world 😤 pic.twitter.com/StTXR0vehM— FOX Soccer (@FOXSoccer) November 26, 2022
Klopp has international coaching experience (Champions League) with and against the best players in the world. Dolo doesn’t. Big Apple, meet little orange.
I think you are right. And that is because he kinda looks like Kurt Russell (Herb Brooks) in “Miracle.”
So are you limiting to people with international head coaching experience? I agree that much of this is risk mitigation, but we are going to have to take some risks across the board. This is a concern, but I don't think every coach struggles here.
It’s also the sort of thing you talk about with potential candidates as part of the interview process.
Yeah, I think there is huge value in some of these national team “specialist” coaches, if you look at the historical results, for example: Bora Milutinovic Guus Hiddink Roberto Martinez Etc.
Renard is interesting. I like a lot about him -- he has tourney success (and failure). He's coached a lot of international teams and clearly can bridge some level of cultural divide. Tactically, he wants to play more possession but obviously can be a pragmatist which I think fits our needs well. I would have zero issues with a Renard hire. I don't think he's necessarily a home run -- he has big successes but some surprising failures. He has highly variable AFCON results -- both ways -- in a wacky ass tournament. Him being able to score an upset against Argentina but not being able to parlay a single point against a pretty underwhelming Mexico and Poland pairing is something people should question. Losing 2-0 and 2-1 (with a meaningless, last minute goal) against them when you really just needed draws is something I'd look into to. But that's coaching. So he'd be good. I'm not convinced there's any magic criteria that puts any of these mid-level guys clearly above another. I mean, I'm sure some would work better for us, but I'm not sure we can know.
International success would see to be a huge plus but then there are coaches that were U23 coaches that were moved up and did quite well. So someone like Dolo might be a rising coach that it could the perfect time to grab him before he jumps to Europe. Nancy fits that as well. May be coaches from other countries that also fit that. No matter who is chosen even if Klopp reconsiders won't play well with a lot of fans who think we're just right behind France and Argentina in talent.
Where is this report coming from? Have any of the connected reporters (McIntyre, Carlisle, et al) mentioned this? I've been out of the loop but I haven't seen any. Has anyone mentioned if he has an interest in the job?
My hesitations about Renard. The European globetrotter coach is sort of the outside consultant of the Soccer World. They have a basic formula they're selling to teams that don't have that much. I would expect us to set up in a low block and counter. Maybe Renard is different. I haven't paid a lot of attention to him specifically. He also feels like settling. A different kind of settling than hiring an MLS coach. But settling nonetheless.