NEWSFLASH: MLS refs suck.

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by Noah Dahl, Oct 2, 2003.

  1. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Colorado has been getting jobbed with these red cards lately.

    Fraser's tackle last night was a thing of beauty - one of the highlights of the game. If you want to follow the word of the law, you could hand out red cards all day, but I think the refs are cracking down on the wrong stuff.

    Red card Earnie Stewart for punting the ball into the stands. Red card pushing the ref. Yellow card encroachment, niggling fouls, diving, timewasting, kicking the ball away and all these tactics that are designed to wrest control of the game from the ref.

    Take the tough challenges out of soccer, however, and MLS players will be ill-prepared for the international game. And fans will lose out on an exciting, undeniable element of the sport.
     
  2. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think you convinced me, though I'm a wishy-washy kind of guy to begin with.


    PS. I thought the red on Beckerman was a good one -maybe a tad harsh, but not a bad call - and Pablo deserved his two yellows.
     
  3. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    On these sort of challenges, I expect to see a little more "surface tension" before the refs break out the red card.
     
  4. efren95

    efren95 Member

    Apr 20, 2000
    Republic of Texas
    Don't be too harsh. Refs are human, and as human will make mistakes. We all do.

    You should see Mexican refs, talking about red cards. They expell players every week, sometimes for trivial tackles that hardly merit yellow cards.

    As time passes by and our American refs continue top learn the whole league atmosphere will improve.

    Always hope for the best.
     
  5. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    did marsch need to have his leg broken for it it be worth a red card????


    good grief
     
  6. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    You're right - it was funny to see Razov defending the call.
     
  7. billf

    billf Member+

    May 22, 2001
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Stewart kicking the ball away can't be a red. There's no justification for it. However, I do believe MLS and the referees let players get away with too much.

    Beckerman saw red because the tackle on Cancella was pretty dangerous and because Cancella has been the most fouled player since coming into the league. This is the kind of officating MLS fans should want. Referees need to protect star players, but they also need to send off stars when they deserve it. The Pablo second caution was soilid as well. From what I've heard, MLS backed the referee on all three NE-Col send offs from a few weeks ago.

    I didn't see any of the games last week, so I can't comment on anything else. What is interesting though, is that there was only a single red (for a second caution) during the first several weeks of the season.
     
  8. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
     
  9. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Witness: Quakes/Metro on national TV

    My ground-breaking theory holds.
     
  10. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Witness: Quakes/Metro on national TV

    I usually give the refs the benefit of the doubt. It's an impossible job and deserves a certain tolerance when analyzing it.

    But St. Silva was truly a disgrace on Sunday. Horrible.

    Combine that with playing on the narrow confines of Spartan, whose field was totally chopped up by American football, it made for one truly, incredibly bad game.

    O well.
     
  11. NotAbbott

    NotAbbott Member

    Oct 11, 1999
    My Own Little World
    Just so you know, MLB umpires suck, too.

    Shoulda been a triple play.

    Later,
    COZ
     
  12. Smurfquake

    Smurfquake Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    San Carlos, CA
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: Re: Witness: Quakes/Metro on national TV

    I don't know if this came through on the TV broadcast, but in the second half, St. Silva spent a lot of time on the west side of the field -- because there was a small amount of shade over there and he was trying to get out of the sun. Lazy bastard.
     
  13. Noah Dahl

    Noah Dahl New Member

    Nov 1, 2001
    Pottersville
    Re: Re: Witness: Quakes/Metro on national TV

    His assistants weren't so great either. There were some really shabby offside calls, missed blatant fouls... and do you recall Bradley grabbing the cards out of the 4th official's hands so a simple substitution could be consummated?

    That was just embarrassing.
     

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