new Belmont Raceway stadium proposal

Discussion in 'New York City FC' started by msilverstein47, Oct 18, 2011.

  1. Woodside Mets

    Woodside Mets Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Woodside Queens NYC
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Huh ? did you even bother to read what we're talking about ? You can not have a stadium in NYC without access to a subway line..CAN NOT. Just look at RBA. I said that I go to belmont 3-4 times a summer. Its the public transportation thats the issue.
     
  2. Woodside Mets

    Woodside Mets Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Woodside Queens NYC
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The geographical center of NYC is Woodside Queens..58 street & Queens Blvd..or the population center is in Bushwick Brooklyn.
     
  3. Ed NYC Firm

    Ed NYC Firm Member

    May 14, 2000
    NY
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    You have to forgive him.. He's one of those "special" people who like to have an advert for an energy drink as their avatar.
     
  4. Bklyn Royals Fan

    United States
    Jan 17, 2008
    NY
    Club:
    New York Cosmos
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  5. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was thinking of having a disclaimer before my post knowing very well everyone would consider a different place the center of NYC. :D

    And Metro, from Times Square to Flushing Meadows is still quicker for travel than Times Square to RBA (in both forms of transportation...at least on the sometimes-flawed Google Maps).
     
  6. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    It was like 12 minutes from penn sta, ny to penn newark, 12 minute walk to stadium. I can't imagine a 7 train taking less than 24 minutes. But whatever, it's a close call at the very least. And more to the point, I think this has always been more of an east of the east river thing, with manhattanites up for grabs.
     
  7. Woodside Mets

    Woodside Mets Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Woodside Queens NYC
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Depends..I've made it to Shea..from 5th Ave & Byrant Park in 18 minutes this year[yeah i timed it]:D Express train

    If you take the LIRR to Shea its about 18 minutes..You only make one stop before Wilets point
     
  8. Woodside Mets

    Woodside Mets Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Woodside Queens NYC
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah I wish they would open that up..the tracks and rails are still there. We used to play on them as kids. Queens needs more trains lines. Next time you're on the subway, look at the map. Look how many parts of Queens, have NO subway lines near them.
     
  9. Chowda

    Chowda Member

    Sep 13, 2004
    Rhode Island
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    All this LIR talk getting me nostalgic about my Hofstra days.

    Edit: Hey wait, the stadium would be where the Colosseum is.

    [​IMG]

    I know they plan on knocking it down, where would a stadium go at Belmont? Would they knock down most of the stables and just run on the weekends?
     
  10. Woodside Mets

    Woodside Mets Member

    Feb 18, 2005
    Woodside Queens NYC
    Club:
    Celtic FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There is plenty of room on the sides of the race track to build a 25,000 seat stadium. That's no problem
     
  11. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Actual transcript as we pull up to the gate:

    Me, while giving NJSEA girl $10: Track ticket please.
    NJSEA girl: You're going to the track?
    Me, dressed in full Metro gear, with 3 others in the car in full Metro gear: Yep. Going to the track.
    NJSEA girl calling to her supervisor: Tony! Get over here...
    NJSEA Tony: What's the problem?
    NJSEA girl: These guys want a track ticket.
    NJSEA Tony to me: Sir, the track ticket is for track patrons.
    Me: I know, I'm going to the track.
    NJSEA Tony, dumbfounded by my response: It's obvious you're going to the soccer game.
    Me: Going to the track.
    NJSEA Tony to NJSEA girl after a pause: Just give him the f@ck!ng ticket!

    I don't know what I found more appealing, seeing the faces of gate tellers, or seeing the faces of people I brought with me who were appalled at what I just pulled off. My favorite was one instance in which the teller handed me two track tickets by mistake, so I actually made money off NJSEA.

    Still, not as great as beating DC!



    Back on topic, for the sake of the NYC movement, I hope this is an FCNY venture.
     
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  12. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    To be fair, I was comparing Subway to subway, and commuter rail to commuter rail, so I'm glad WoodsideMets brought up LIRR. Center of Manhattan to RBA via subway/PATH is longer than 7 to Citi. And NJT to RBA is much longer than LIRR to Citi.
     
  13. NorthbankHighbury

    Jan 25, 2009
    Liberty, MO
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Is that what fans are expecting now or merely what is more realistic?

    (Given that sometimes this all seems a bit fanciful and up in the air -- wasn't 40,000 the number people were talking or was that just Napoli?)
     
  14. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    There was rumors that 40K is what PK was looking for - im sure that since then got scaled down.

    You know, being its rumored he sold his shares lol
     
  15. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    What a great story to start my week out with!
     
  16. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
  17. Metrogo

    Metrogo Member

    Apr 6, 1999
    Washington Hghts NY
    Also, according to the MTA, 7 train from times square to willets point citifield is 35 minutes.

    According to PAth, 33rd street to harrison, 34 minutes.
     
  18. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    Thats probably the local train though - if you catch an express its a lot faster
     
  19. Ed NYC Firm

    Ed NYC Firm Member

    May 14, 2000
    NY
    Club:
    Dundee FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Scotland
    It has to be.. I've gone from Grand Central to Citi in around 25 mins on an express.
     
  20. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    yea - and on match days they just add a few more express trains.

    Amazing - cant think of the last time i took the 7 to Citi - and im someone who goes out there like 30 times a summer at least
     
  21. metros11

    metros11 Member

    Sep 11, 1999
    Highlands of NJ
    Club:
    New York Red Bulls
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Technically the NJT doesn't go directly to Harrison, it goes to Newark. You'd either have to walk from there or take the PATH one stop back.
     
  22. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I did the walk after the USA game - not too bad - and im the type - id rather walk and get the transit than wait on the path.

    When I go for RedBull games - it depends on how packed it is - if its really crowded i always leave early and take the path - now after walking over - i might start doing that so I can stay the whole game.
     
  23. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was going by the sometimes flawed, but comprehensive Google Maps public transit option. It includes walking, waiting for transfers, etc. The walk from Newark Penn has to be 12-15mins. It can definitely be wrong, but just wanted to show what I was going off of:

    To RBA:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=T...xp=0&noal=0&sort=def&mra=ltm&t=m&z=12&start=0

    To Citi Field:
    http://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=T...xp=0&noal=0&sort=def&mra=ltm&t=m&z=12&start=0
     
  24. QueensNick

    QueensNick Member

    Jul 19, 2007
    New York City
    Nat'l Team:
    United States

    guys - lets be honest though - this doesnt take into account - waiting for the train, people holding the doors, slow trains etc
     
  25. PCFC

    PCFC Member

    May 13, 2007
    NYC
    Club:
    Newry City FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah and the PATH train is the least organized crap ever. Superficially clean, but slow, infrequent and the long distance from Journal Square to Harrison is painful. It never reaches 7 express train speed.
     

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