Need nominations for Big Soccer's 2nd Annual MLS DONKEY OF THE YEAR AWARD!!!

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by Native Aztexan, Oct 23, 2003.

  1. Scoey

    Scoey Member

    Oct 1, 1999
    Portland
    Worst MLS Debut
    Curtis Spiteri -- Chicago Fire

    Worst Mid-Season Acquisition
    Mark Williams -- Columbus Crew
     
  2. ToddP25

    ToddP25 Member

    Apr 19, 1999
    Richmond, VA
    I didn't like him when he was with Metros.....and while I sympathize with him losing his father, the time he took off was extremely exessive.......I am sure he will cost the quakes a game with his finishing abilities too......
     
  3. soccernutter

    soccernutter Moderator
    Staff Member

    Tottenham Hotspur
    Aug 22, 2001
    Near the mountains.
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    8) Non-MLS Personality

    Somehow we need to fit Pendergast and Jack Warner in here...
     
  4. rauld10

    rauld10 Member

    Dec 7, 2000
    Sarasota, FL
    MLS player: Landon Donovan for his complaining (fatigue from too many games, when Real Madrid, could play up to 60 games a year).
    Commentator: Rob Stone for his distasteful D.C. sniper reference during the Crew-United game.
    Team: Dallas especially for their horrible high school stadium. 2005 and the new Frisco stadium couldn't come soon enough for the team.
     
  5. Sundevil9

    Sundevil9 Member

    Nov 23, 1999
    Reston, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ruiz and his non-punished elbow to Carey Talley's face.
     
  6. JAnderson14

    JAnderson14 New Member

    Oct 5, 2000
    Crofton, MD
    1) MLS Players
    Steve Jolley. He's a bitch, that's why.

    2) MLS Coaches/Managers
    Greg Andrulis. While Jeffries was in charge of the most inept team, by far, Andrulis turned what should have been the most exciting team to watch in MLS into a blundering opus, unable to overtake a team that went 0-3-3 in it's last 6 games of the season.

    3) MLS Teams
    Dallas Burn. Whine about losing O'Brien and Kreis all you want, those are things you should have been able to make up for. Not only that, but Dragon Stadium should have given you some sort of elevated home field advantage. Instead, you were crap all year long.

    4) MLS Executives/Businessmen
    Wagner. I would have been upset playing at Dragon Stadium if I was on a JV high school team.

    5) MLS Officials
    Abbey Okulaja. I don't recall him even coming close to keeping control of a game he called. The recent Crew-DC game was the worst of all, as he missed things both ways.

    6) MLS Fans
    Revs fans. Gillette Stadium isn't actually a library, you know. Being loud is ok.

    7) MLS Media Announcers/Writers
    Whomever the SJ writer was that spends a whole post-game article on how poor Landon was fouled a couple times during the game.

    8) Non-MLS Personality
    Vergara and his Chivas cronies, for continuing to put out quotes in the media that insinuate that they can just bend the rules whatever way they please.

    9) Others
    Clint Mathis. Biggest waste of talent since Jovan Kirovski.
     
  7. JMMUSA8

    JMMUSA8 New Member

    Nov 3, 2001
    Webster
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    actually it is. The Stadium is impossible to keep any noise because it all drains out under the bridge. Patriots fans also have trouble with atmosphere.
     
  8. slip2break

    slip2break New Member

    Feb 25, 2001
    Buffalo, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My two cents:

    1) MLS Player
    Giles

    2) MLS Coach/Manager
    Mike Jeffries

    3) MLS Team
    Galaxy

    4) MLS Executive/Business
    John Wagner.

    5) MLS Officials
    Michael Kennedy

    6) MLS Fans
    Metros

    7) MLS Media
    (I'll pass on this one.... I don't mind any of them. They all mean well, at the very least ;) )

    8) Non MLS Personality
    Foudy

    9) Others
    Rochester Rhinos for even considering the artificial stuff as a cost saving measure for the new stadium.
     
  9. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As opposed to Califf's foot to Twellman's face?
     
  10. Red Star

    Red Star Member

    Jan 10, 2002
    Fayetteville, AR
    dignified discussion please

    You are first person I have heard imply, in any way, that Califf was at fault for Twellman's injury.

    Why do you think that Califf committed a foul?

    If I recall correctly the ball was about 18 inches off the ground when Twellman tried to head it while Califf tried to kick it. My impression was that Twellman was at fault for attempting to head the low ball. Technically a dangerous play call on Twellman but at that level you let men take those risks if they want to, after all it is his own face. I bet Twellman would do it again, he is a warrior.
     
  11. voros

    voros Member

    Jun 7, 2002
    Parts Unknown
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  12. PSoccer

    PSoccer New Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Gilles Grimandi - see ya later
    Hristo - leg breaker
    Steve Cangialosi/Shep Messing - worst commentators in MLS
     
  13. Th4119

    Th4119 Member

    Jul 26, 2001
    Annandale, VA
    Dallas fans for incessantly bitching about the stadium rather than dealing with it and seeing your team. Fair weather fans are fantastic!!
     
  14. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    There's only one donkey in MLS:

    Alexi Lalas
     
  15. pepe_pupu

    pepe_pupu New Member

    Feb 4, 2003
    Arizona
    1) MLS Player
    Pat Onstadt - can't make the mistakes he makes at this level.

    2) MLS Coach/Manager
    Mike Jeffries

    3) MLS Team
    Dallas Burn

    4) MLS Executive/Business
    John Wagner.

    5) MLS Officials
    Michael Kennedy

    6) MLS Fans
    Dallas Burn

    7) MLS Media
    San Jose press

    8) Non MLS Personality
    Not sure

    9) Others
    Landon Donovan for being unsportsmanlike many times this year.
     
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Let's break down one of the worst posts I've ever read:

    The horror. A goalkeeper knocks a ball into his own net, yet leads the league in goalkeeping. Accidents happen, everyone that steps on the field makes a mistake at some point. He will almost certainly be goalkeeper of the year. As a Wizards fan I certainly appreciate him knocking the ball into the net, but come on, that was six months ago.

    I'll give you that one.

    Yeah, they sucked. But that's just easy pickings and basically the same thing phrased two different ways.

    So, he took an unprofitable team and slashed its losses. He also signed a contract which gets the team its own stadium with 55 of the 65 million to build it being publicly funded. Oh, the horror.

    And he's any worse than the rest of the lot?

    What would make you say that? I think the Dallas Burn fans are the best ones in the league. Sitting through the season from hell in Dragon Stadium is more than most fans of other teams would've done. Perhaps its the background population of Dallas that doesn't go to games that sucks, but then there's 10 million folks in the NYC metroplex that couldn't give a damn about the Metros, either.

    I'm not sure what this is based on. Personally I would think the worst coverage is by the KC Star. The Wizards have virtually no local or national coverage.

    Unsportsmanlike? And this is different than many other players? Why single him out?
     
  17. pepe_pupu

    pepe_pupu New Member

    Feb 4, 2003
    Arizona
    All just opinion, Andy... No need to single my answers out when some others agree. And of course players make mistakes all the time -- but Onstadt has made multiple silly ones and just because he has a great defense in front of him (best in the league, in my opinion), doesn't make him goalkeeper of the year. I think Hartman has proved himself more than the prior... But all just my opinion.
     
  18. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Refresh my memory then, what are some of the silly mistakes he has made besides his one against the Wizards earlier this season?
     
  19. ProfZodiac

    ProfZodiac Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jan 17, 2003
    Boston, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I'd like to change my officials vote to Terry Vaughn, after last night.
     
  20. crewcrazy17

    crewcrazy17 Member

    Mar 5, 2002
    Medina
    1) MLS Player
    Mark Williams - The guy comes in and gets a yellow in every single game! On top of that he is slow and cannot get up in the air.

    2) MLS Coach/Manager
    Andrulis - How does he manage to take a team with that much talent and guide them to a last place finish?

    3) MLS Team
    Dallas Burn - Not much else to explain is there?

    4) MLS Executive/Business
    Garber - For allowing the fiasco that is becoming Chivas. He need to come out and address some of the rumors flying about.

    5) MLS Officials
    Is one any worse than the other?

    6) MLS Fans
    Anyone who bithces about attendance without going to the games.

    7) MLS Media
    ESPN - I know that MLS is not huge, but for the popularity it does have the coverage is less than track and filed.

    8) Non MLS Personality
    Gilles Grimandi - I think he saw the quality he was facing and pussed out.
     
  21. Native Aztexan

    Jan 27, 2002
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    UPDATED VOTE COUNT

    The votes so far as of Monday November 3, 2003:


    1) MLS Players
    Dema Kovalenko (6 votes)
    Hristo Stoickhov (5)
    Pat Onstad (3)
    Mark Williams (3)
    Landon Donovan (3)
    Clint Mathis (2)
    Amado Guevara (2)
    Rodrigo Faria (1)
    Hong Myrung Bo (1)
    Alexi Lalas (1)
    Steve Jolley (1)
    Carlos Ruiz (1)
    Curtis Spiteri (1)
    Kenny Arena (1)
    Tony Meola (1)


    2) MLS Coaches/Managers
    Mike Jeffries (9)
    Greg Andrulis (6)
    Ray Hudson (1)


    3) MLS Teams
    Dallas Burn (6)
    L.A. Galaxy (4)
    Chivas MLS (3)
    D.C. United (2)
    San Jose Earthquakes (1)
    Metrostars (1)


    4) MLS Executives/Businessmen
    John Wagner (11)
    Jorge Vergara (8)
    Don Garber (3)
    Jim Smith (1)
    The Krafts (1)
    Kevin Payne (1)


    5) MLS Officials
    Gus St. Silva (3)
    Michael Kennedy (2)
    All MLS officials (2)
    Terry Vaughn (1)
    Abbey Okulaja (1)
    The "Harris Bicycle Kick Goal Isn't A Goal" officials (1)
    The D.C.-Crew officials (1)

    6) MLS Fans
    Earthquakes fans (3)
    Soccer moms (2)
    Childish fans (2)
    Burn fans (2)
    United fans (1)
    Fans with plastic horns (1)
    Revolution fans (1)
    Metrostars fans (1)
    Non-attending fans who bitch about MLS attendance (1)


    7) MLS Media Announcers/Writers
    Rob Stone (7)
    San Jose writer/press (2)
    Mark Connelly (1)
    Revolutions' radio guy (1)
    Jack Edwards (1)
    ESPN (1)
    Metrostars Marketing Staff (1)
    Steve Cangialosi & Shep Messing (1)


    8) Non-MLS Personality
    Giles Grimandi (13)
    Julie Foudy (4)
    Ian Bishop (1)
    George Bush (1)
    Ralph Nader (1)
    Snobby English FA Board (1)
    Peter Pendergast (1)
    Jack Warner (1)


    9) Others
    Dragon Stadium (16)
    Ramiro Corrales' towel (1)
    Decepticon Lazerbeak (1)
    Overtime (1)
    Field turf (1)
    Rochester Rhinos (1)
    Preston McMurray (1)
     
  22. Native Aztexan

    Jan 27, 2002
    Austin, Texas
    Club:
    Austin Aztex
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    What gives?

    Ok. It's been 3 day since nobody has voted. Should I go on and end this voting or do you want me to continue?
     
  23. TravisMinor_23

    TravisMinor_23 New Member

    Oct 16, 2001
    United States
    Re: UPDATED VOTE COUNT

    1) MLS Players
    Hristo Stoickhov-I'll get to this at the teams portion
    2) MLS Coaches/Managers
    Mike Jeffries-It must have been hard to take that talent and turn it into Rubbish...
    3) MLS Teams
    D.C. United-listen, I like some of the young ones, but if MLS had the balls to charge people with "bringing the game into disrepute" Hristo and Marco would be lined up. They constantly bitch and flop. Add that to Hristo and Dema's horrible tackles causing serious injuries and we have a winner. How anyone can vote for the Burn because they suck when stuff like this is going on is beyond me
    4) MLS Executives/Businessmen
    Jorge Vergara-Chivas USA has the ability to ruin this league and all respectablility it has been building.
    5) MLS Officials
    Gus St. Silva-This is cumulative. He has been so bad, so long, its unbelievable.
    6) MLS Fans
    Earthquakes fans-Just plain bad. I'd hate to see their fans if they went through a Dallas Burn type season...
    7) MLS Media Announcers/Writers
    Metros marketing staff. Come on guys.....MPF is the biggest failure since, well, yeah..
    8) Non-MLS Personality
    Soccer-bashers. Just shut up, we don't like you either, get on with you lives.
    9) Others
    Dragon Stadium-disaster. Makes Cardinal Stadium seem like Old Trafford.
     
  24. NER_MCFC

    NER_MCFC Member

    May 23, 2001
    Cambridge, MA
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I find this one interesting. Because he's a Boston area resident, I've never seen him reffing a game except for a couple of early round cup ties. He's only ever a 4th official for Revs MLS games. I would have thought that Vaughan or the guy who did DC-Columbus was at least as bad, but they don't seem to be getting the votes.

    Well, since I didn't vote for a game official, I'll go for Vaughan. I am mystified how Moore's tackle in Chicago back in April was a red while DiGi's "I wish I was a free safety" number last Saturday was only a yellow.
     
  25. WLU_Mike

    WLU_Mike New Member

    Aug 22, 2003
    Ontario
    NER_MCFC, I think you can stop supporting Fiorentina now.
     

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