NASL Files Federal Antitrust Lawsuit Against US Soccer

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  1. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    I wonder how much the threat of the NISA going forward in 2018 prompted USSF to drop NASL's status.

    I imagine they were ok with NASL just evaporating, but starting up a doomed pro league is not good for soccer at all. Now NISL has nowhere to promote to.
     
  2. jaykoz3

    jaykoz3 Member+

    Dec 25, 2010
    Conshohocken, PA
    Club:
    Philadelphia Union
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I love this from the NASL Statement:

    The complaint alleges that the USSF has selectively applied and waived its divisional criteria to suppress competition from the NASL, both against MLS and against United Soccer League (USL). For example, under the USSF’s divisional criteria, there are European clubs that have successfully operated for decades that would be considered ineligible for “Division I” or even “Division II” status due to arbitrary requirements like stadium capacity and market size.

    Hmmmmm..... I seem to remember Serie A requiring smaller teams to play in OTHER stadiums, due to their home stadiums NOT meeting certain criteria....

    Also, didn't Blackpool have to add seats to their stadium in order to play in the EPL?

    I'm calling Shenanigans on this "Lawsuit."
     
  3. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Isn't this the type of thing FIFA generally sanctions other (smaller) leagues for, for getting the courts involved in governing soccer?
     
  4. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    Another odd thing...this lawsuit mentions time and again how things are done around the world yet...how many countries have multiple top tier leagues?
     
  5. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    The irony is that they asked for standards which allowed the nasl to become div ii and pushed the USL to div iii.
     
  6. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
  7. cleazer

    cleazer Member+

    May 6, 2003
    Toledo, OH
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Safe to assume we're looking at their death throes?
    Basically just doing anything in an attempt to still exist next season or to get something for their efforts?
     
  8. Paul Calixte

    Paul Calixte Moderator
    Staff Member

    Orlando City SC
    Apr 30, 2009
    Miami, FL
    Club:
    Orlando City SC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  9. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    As if that was going to happen anyway.
     
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  10. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    They have been known to threaten that, yes.
     
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  11. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  12. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was actually pretty impressed by his willingness to point out some of the basic mistakes neo-NASL made and more especially, their central role in determining D2 standards. The NASL founders wanted to make sure what was left of USL could never challenge them and encouraged USSF to set requirements which would favor them forever. (Or half a dozen years, whichever comes first.)
     
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  13. Blong

    Blong Member+

    Oct 29, 2002
    Midwest, the real one.
    In theory, of course. But it really would underscore the hot mess they are getting into.
     
  14. BHTC Mike

    BHTC Mike Member+

    Apr 12, 2006
    Burlington, ON
    Club:
    Toronto FC
    Nat'l Team:
    Canada
    Just thinking about this a bit more.

    So the NASL is asking the court should issue an injunction maintaining their Division II status. Presumably, to do that, they'll have to show irreparable harm if their Division II status is revoked.

    But the NASL is simultaneously arguing that the entire sanctioning regime is illegal and should be permanently enjoined. Which would presumably result in them losing their Division II status, because there would be no more division sanctioning.

    Actual question: Can they even do that?

    Edit:

    Also, anyone know if USSF can ask for security for costs?
     
  15. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    If memory serves one of the big stumbling blocks last year was the exit fee. Thry had to give notice in the summer to either avoid a fee or pay a really small one. Also i think that their contract expired this year so they, or others, could leave on a free so to speak.

    Or something along those lines.
     
  16. UxSxAxfooty

    UxSxAxfooty Member+

    Jan 23, 2003
    Rochester, NY
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Does that mean Rocco Commisso gets to be POTUS some day?
     
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  17. Dan Loney

    Dan Loney BigSoccer Supporter

    Mar 10, 2000
    Cincilluminati
    Club:
    Los Angeles Sol
    Nat'l Team:
    Philippines
    Way ahead of you! And by that I mean, I just sat down.
     
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  18. kenntomasch

    kenntomasch Member+

    Sep 2, 1999
    Out West
    Club:
    FC Tampa Bay Rowdies
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And in reality. They were planning to try to institute once they were "built out" at 24 teams (in year three, which was a stretch for starters). At which point they would still have the not-insignificant problem of convincing the NASL that it was in their best interests to swap, say, Orange County for Omaha because Omaha won whatever 14-game season or playoffs or whatever and Orange County finished a point behind Jacksonville.

    Beyond ideology, which is neither here nor there, it makes no sense.

    And if that is their differentiator, and they end up with no league above them that is not named USL, they're just another D3 league. Which, at this moment, has applicants and no actual teams and no sanctioning.
     
  19. vividox

    vividox Moderator
    Staff Member

    Aug 10, 2005
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    Hmmm, this reads like a league on the ropes desperately trying to find a way to make some money they don't deserve...
     
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  20. whiteonrice04

    whiteonrice04 Member+

    Sep 8, 2006
    Also, comparing market sizes in European countries to market sizes in the US is seriously flawed. The US has way more large markets and in Europe soccer is king so a smaller market isn't a big deal. When soccer is the number 1 sport it is much more likely succeed in a smaller market.
    This is a very silly comparison and anyone with a brain can see that.
     
  21. dredgfan

    dredgfan Member+

    MLS
    Nov 5, 2004
    Denver or NOLA
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bitcoin.
     
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  22. ArsenalMetro

    ArsenalMetro Member+

    United States
    Aug 5, 2008
    Chicago, IL
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    Yeah, they can. If the court sides with them, it would just accept one argument and not the other.
     
  23. Zoidberg

    Zoidberg Member+

    Jun 23, 2006
    I prefer SchruteBucks.
     
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  24. GunnerJacket

    GunnerJacket Moderator
    Staff Member

    Sep 18, 2003
    Gainesville, GA
    Club:
    Arsenal FC
    During Jason Davis' show today he said one of his sources confirmed the vote among NASL owners (to move forward with the lawsuit) was not unanimous.
     
  25. The Franchise

    The Franchise Member+

    Nov 13, 2014
    Bakersfield, CA
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I wonder what kind of team would vote each way...
     

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