My music focus group experience

Discussion in 'Movies, TV and Music' started by cpwilson80, Nov 4, 2003.

  1. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    My music focus group experience was a mild disappointment. No opportunity to make 18 year old Linkin Park fans cry or anything, but still an interesting experience into the mind of corporate radio.

    There were about 50 people in this hotel conference room (male/female ages 17-24...not surprisingly, all whiteys.) We were each handed a handheld set with a keypad and dial. The keypad was used for basic demographic questions, and the dial was used to register our take on songs. You could "turn up the volume" on the dial when you liked a song -- scale went from 1 to 100.

    And like that, we jumped right in. The moderator played 8-10 seconds of a song (either the hook or chorus), and then another song would fade in. Each CD had 50 songs on it, and then we'd take a minute break.

    The music ran the full gamut of your alternative music fare (I passed the screening by saying a clip of music featuring old pearl jam and audioslave was my "1st or 2nd choice" for music...not true, but close enough.) We listened to grunge, crappy new metal, punky stuff, crappy punky stuff, the occasional heavier System of a Down like song, and any crossover hip hop (Eminem, 50 Cent, I'm looking at you) stuff that white suburban kids would listen to on the radio.

    Through the course of the night, we listened to a whopping 650 songs. And amazingly (sadly? surprisingly?) enough, I knew 649 of them. The best were the random novelty hits from high school. Hits such as 'Popular', '6 feet underground' and 'Standing outside a broken phone booth...' resonanted with the older (22-24) folks, and drew blank stares from the young'ns.

    Two absolutely awesome moments of the night. One, they played King Missle's classic 'Detachable Penis' (again, more blank stares from youngsters.) Two, after a string of so-so songs, what do I hear but the strains of "Cal-I-Forn-Iaaaa! CAL-I-FORN-IAAAAA!!!!" Yes, it was the theme song to The O.C.brought to you by Phantom Planet! I was instructed not to talk to anybody beforehand, but I couldn't help but laugh when this came on.

    Afterward, I talked to the moderator; as I suspected, this was for satellite radio (another one of the screening questions was if I had heard/am interesting in buying satellite radio.) Unfortunately, they are planning to become even more genre specific for the radio stations -- they'll release 4 different alternative stations and tailor it based on how much older alternative you like, how much hiphop you like, etc.

    A couple of things that were disappointing. The whole night was nothing but singles...no original music. Plus, there is a whole bunch of crappy, crappy music out there. I've also resigned myself to the fact that radio is going the way of digital TV and will serve nothing but highly specialized niche markets -- the chances of hearing Basement Jaxx followed by Pavement are decreasing by the day, as are the chances I'll listen to anything but college radio.

    But then I also felt good about music. Despite all this, there is a plethora of good music to be found...it just takes a little effort, effort that I'm still willing to make on a regular basis. People manage to realize there was a golden age (Nirvana, Soundgarden, Pearl Jam, Alice In Chains, Rage Against The Machine, Stone Temple Pilots) of alternative that holds up against any era of rock. There are also good bands today (White Stripes, Interpol, System of a Down) that manage to break through and actually garner some exposure. And, as always, the under-the-radar world of indie rock and hip hop remains fertile as ever.

    So yeah, there's the rant. All that, and I made 60 bucks. I just hope all the 5 out of 100s I gave Creed, Limp Bizkit, and any generic rock band makes a difference somewhere along the line.

    Anybody have similar experiences?
     
  2. tpmazembe

    tpmazembe Member

    Jun 13, 2002
    The Midfield (S.Fla)
    Nothing substantive to add, except totally enjoyed reading your post. Vivid enough to imagine the environment...good job.

    650 songs, 10 seconds each, in one evening! Hardly a way to measure quality. And your right, quality is out there, you just have to search harder to get through the Mass Appeal stuff.
     
  3. MeridianFC

    MeridianFC Member

    Jul 26, 1999
    Washington, DC USA
    You have made me feel very, very old.

    Thanks. ;)
     
  4. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    That's just it though. Given the average teenage American attention span, 10 seconds is about all you'd need to make most people buy a CD.
     
  5. microbrew

    microbrew New Member

    Jun 29, 2002
    NJ
    Don't you mean download the song for free? :)


    I have a much younger brother who's still in high school. it's an interesting sociological experiment to watch him channel surf through the music video channels.
     
  6. nicodemus

    nicodemus Member+

    Sep 3, 2001
    Cidade Mágica
    Club:
    PAOK Saloniki
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True. I guess I'm dating myself with that whole "buying" thing.
     
  7. nancyb

    nancyb Member

    Jun 30, 2000
    Falls Church, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    And people wonder why radio is so atrocious today? They based their playlists on some people listing to 650 songs in one day. Jesus.

    And yes, Kelly, I'm feeling pretty damn ancient myself right now.
     
  8. art

    art Member

    Jul 2, 2000
    Portland OR
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Yeah no kidding...a 24 year old calling anyone else a "young'n" does it for me. Time for the gas chamber.
     
  9. cpwilson80

    cpwilson80 Member+

    Mar 20, 2001
    Boston
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not to make you feel any worse, but I'm 22 ;)

    The "young'n" thing was completely in jest, but what surprised me was that the satellite radio company running this focus group assumed that as they tailor-made an alternative channel, anybody in my age bracket wouldn't be interested in listening to anything released before 1990 (which, now that I think about it some more, bothers me as much as them going completely genre specific.)

    Nothing like Cure or Depeche Mode was played, nor bands like Black Flag or Suicidal Tendencies -- all of which could fit in an "alternative" station. I mean, chances are if you like the new Strokes CD, you'd probably enjoy the Cars as well.

    The whole experience makes me wonder how much radio stations and digital downloads are making those about 10 years younger than me singularly attuned to a "single-only" musical world.
     

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