MLS/USA Flags

Discussion in 'MLS: General' started by puravidamon, Apr 12, 2006.

  1. Mountainia

    Mountainia Member

    Jun 19, 2002
    Section 207, Row 7
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Darn. You mean I shouldn't have worn the USA Flag boxer shorts for the World Cup in '94?
     
  2. Aaron d

    Aaron d Member+

    May 15, 2005
    Wooster
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately the cross has lost much respect. If you color on it with crayons and markers, then yes. There is a difference between wearing/displaying and coloring/marking up. Yes they died for something more than a piece of fabric, but can we keep the fabric to help remind us of that, and keep it nice. We treat things like this with some respect, that's why you wear a cross today. If what really mattered was what the cross meant, then there would be no reason to wear it, right? You still wear it because it has some special place. It's a way of showing respect with some actions, not just keeping respect in the mind and heart.

    And like someone else posted, the boxers are not the full flag, there is a difference between the flag and stars and stripes decorations. I have no problem with stars and stripes adorning things.
     
  3. ONE

    ONE Member

    Aug 11, 2000
    NOLA
    the flag is a strip of cloth. a symbol. thats it.
    if someone modifies (or destroys, for that matter) said symbol it shouldnt make any difference in how you personally feel about the flag.
    its a protected right and by God I plan on using it!
     
  4. Roma_Wolves

    Roma_Wolves New Member

    May 4, 2004
    Austin, Texas
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you're gonna argue the rules, I beg to differ. Don't apply them arbitrarily if you're gonna be a hard ass.

    http://www.usflag.org/flagetiquette.html

    Flag Etiquette
    STANDARDS of RESPECT

    The Flag Code, which formalizes and unifies the traditional ways in which we give respect to the flag, also contains specific instructions on how the flag is not to be used. They are:

    * The flag should never be dipped to any person or thing. It is flown upside down only as a distress signal.
    * The flag should not be used as a drapery, or for covering a speakers desk, draping a platform, or for any decoration in general. Bunting of blue, white and red stripes is available for these purposes. The blue stripe of the bunting should be on the top.
    * The flag should never be used for any advertising purpose. It should not be embroidered, printed or otherwise impressed on such articles as cushions, handkerchiefs, napkins, boxes, or anything intended to be discarded after temporary use. Advertising signs should not be attached to the staff or halyard
    * The flag should not be used as part of a costume or athletic uniform, except that a flag patch may be used on the uniform of military personnel, fireman, policeman and members of patriotic organizations.
    * The flag should never have placed on it, or attached to it, any mark, insignia, letter, word, number, figure, or drawing of any kind.
    * The flag should never be used as a receptacle for receiving, holding, carrying, or delivering anything.
     
  5. Jabinho

    Jabinho New Member

    May 29, 2004
    Well I wouldn't be able to count the number of times I've seen those areas you have in bold violated...
    Actually most of the others too..;)
     
  6. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    By that logic, you can do absolutely anything to the flag, as long as you say your heart and mind are in the right place.

    The flag is just a piece of cloth, but by displaying this piece of cloth you make a statement, and the way you display it affects the statement you make. If you put writing on it, you make the statement that you don't care about proper display of the flag. If you want to violate etiquette or even desecrate the flag as a means of protest, you have the right to do so, but don't do it as an attempt to demonstrate "support."
     
  7. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    All Right. I'm probably looking at a few copyright infringements here, but I believe I've come up with a Flag/Banner that could be used at the World Cup without desecrating the US Flag, and that honors the contribution of MLS, and US Soccer.

    Background: 11 red and white stripes representing the 11 players on the pitch
    during a game.

    Foreground: From left to right the USL, US Soccer, and MLS Logos over top of
    the stripes representing the The governing body of Soccer in the
    US in the middle surrounded by the two major professional
    organizations emblems.

    Beneath the Logos: USA in blue

    Here it is:

    [​IMG]

    What do you all think? :eek:
     
  8. Brook

    Brook BigSoccer Supporter

    Sep 13, 2001
    Cleveland
    Club:
    Chelsea FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A little "busy" IMO!
     
  9. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I've seen other banners at games busier than that. Have you ever seen the La Barra Brava section at a DCU home game?
     
  10. Aljarov

    Aljarov Member

    Sep 14, 2004
    fmnorthamerica.com
    Club:
    Tottenham Hotspur FC
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    Indeed it is.

    I couldn't disagree more.
     
  11. BBBulldog

    BBBulldog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Dinamo Zagreb
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    hehe that's first time I heard Barra banners called busy :D
     
  12. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Not sayin' all of them are Bulldog, but when i see a telecast of a DC game you've got to admit some try cram a lot of sentiments on those even the rated PG ones.
     
  13. SankaCofie

    SankaCofie Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Skorgolia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    y'know... if i can watch a group of "national socialists" walk down main street with U.S. flags and signs decrying the evil of jews and immigrants... and manage to not vomit in my mouth (just barely).

    i think i can stomach a US soccer flag. so long as its not shoddily done.
     
  14. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Let me know what you think
    [​IMG][/URL][/IMG]
     
  15. SankaCofie

    SankaCofie Member

    Aug 8, 2000
    Skorgolia
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    Ecuador
    i think you look like you're supporting the United Czech Republic of America.
     
  16. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Unfortunately since red white and blue are the most common flag colors all flags look like other flags. And since we don't wanna use the american flag in full then most any flag will look like another country's flag.
     
  17. frodoguevara

    frodoguevara Member

    Mar 25, 2006
    Charlotte, NC
    Club:
    Charlotte Eagles
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I was trying to go for something that incorperated all the all the colors from the organizations emblems. Your looking at trying to combine Red, White, and Blue, Green, Black, yellow, etc. I thought it was just easier to put the emblems over a field that would be recognizable as being American without totally ripping off Old Glory. The American flag has 13 stripes representing the 13 original colonies. My banner has 11 representing the 11 members on a soccer side. And since most players on the US squad that are going to play in the World Cup have played for at least one of those organizations I felt it just made sense to include those three as representing the major soccer organizations in the US. I'm working up another one right now that doesn't include the emblems, but incorperates elements from each one. I'll post it here when it's done look for it on Monday.

    Happy Easter all

    Frodo
     
  18. BBBulldog

    BBBulldog Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 25, 2004
    Dinamo Zagreb
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    Croatia
    only ones I can think of that look busy are small ones we have, but those are made to be banners, flags and 2 poles depending on what we want so you don't have inlimited space to work on - it has to be crammed on 4.5'x4.5' :)

    I know what you're saying tho, but fact that they're in black/red/white makes them look less busy since even if you don't see them up close you know they're there for DC.

    If I was American I'd make Maryland banner look like one of these
    http://bastaic.com/propaganda/amerbanner1.jpg
    http://bastaic.com/propaganda/amerbanner2.jpg
    http://bastaic.com/propaganda/amerbanner3.jpg
     

Share This Page