MLS TV Ratings

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  1. trip76

    trip76 Member

    Jul 17, 2007
    North East USA
    my only concern is that a lot of these early games on NBCS are seeing some ratings boost from people just wanting to check out how MLS looks on NBC, and they'll not be providing their eyeballs for most of the broadcasts.
     
  2. Klogon

    Klogon Member

    Aug 12, 2004
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Trust me, this should be the least of your concerns haha. A few thousand people who care will barely move the needle.
     
  3. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    keep in mind, NBC has a 2nd tier package, so the ratings will naturally be lower than what ESPN gets, regardless of channel distribution.
     
  4. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Can you explain this in more detail? Thanks.
     
  5. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    ESPN gets to pick the best games, and the best games will most likely have higher viewership overall. It's not a huge difference (maybe 5-10%).

    If NBC sports network was in double the households of FSC, that doesn't mean they will get double the viewership by default. There are other variables (like which MLS package you have), how well known the channel is, etc....
     
  6. MLSFan123

    MLSFan123 Member+

    Mar 21, 2011
    Boston Area
    Club:
    New England Revolution
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Ahh ok. I wasn't sure what you were referring to about a second tier package. Thanks.
     
  7. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Also include the Spanish package they also get to pick their games, not sure if they are second or third in the picking order.

    ESPN/ESPN2 they get about 30-32 games per year.
    Galavision gets 20-24 games.
    NBCS gets 30-32 games.
     
  8. LongDuckDong

    LongDuckDong Member+

    Jan 26, 2011
    Club:
    FC Schalke 04
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    NBC (NBCSN and the network itself combined) get 40 games, no?
     
  9. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "Major League Soccer and NBC Sports on Thursday will announce a new three-year agreement to televise 45 league matches and 4 United States national team games on the main network and on the NBC Sports Network"

    http://goal.blogs.nytimes.com/2011/08/10/m-l-s-and-nbc-sports-announce-new-tv-deal/

    40 regular season (38 NBCS 2 NBC); 5 playoff games (3 and 2).
     
  10. Paulie4star

    Paulie4star Member

    Feb 18, 2012
    Chesapeake, Virginia
    Club:
    NSC Minnesota Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    No word on Seattle v. Houston figures yet? Just checking in. :)

    Also, I've made a poor attempt at starting a line graph for the network figures this season, but it hasn't turned out the greatest. Perhaps it's because there are so few games on it so far. Anyway, if someone is willing to make a visual, I think we'd all appreciate it. If no one will, I guess I'll do my best at trying to fix the one I have. Thanks.
     
  11. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    update

    ESPN
    http://www.sportsbusinessdaily.com/...t-Year-TV-Deal-That-Includes-Rights-Fees.aspx

    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2012/01/05/espn-networks-air-21-regular-season-matches-2012

    Galavision
    http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2012/01/05/galavision-air-27-mls-matches-2012

    The original ESPN contract was for 26 games, I guess that that has been adjusted with more games in Spanish and less in English.

    Not really sure on the current deal breakdown other than what I read in Wikipedia.
     
  12. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    New York vs Colorado on the big ESPN.

    I doubt it will crack 350K viewers. I really have no faith in New York when it comes to TV ratings.
     
  13. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Re: TV Ratings

    OK looking at the MLS tv contracts.

    First ESPN

    1994 (I believed it covered 1996 to 1998)

    "he three-year agreement committed 10 games on ESPN, 25 on ESPN2, and the MLS Cup on ABC. " from wiki

    1998 - 2005 ????


    2006. ABC/ESPN signed a 8 year (8-10 million USD)

    - ESPN2 will televise 26 regular-season MLS matches, primarily on Thursday nights
    - ESPN2 will televise three MLS playoff matches on Thursday nights
    - ABC will broadcast three marquee MLS matches - the season-opening match, MLS All-Star Game and The MLS Cup
    - Televised coverage of the first round of the MLS Draft

    Now ABC moved their games to ESPN.

    9 will be on ESPN and ESPNDeportes

    11 will be on ESPN2 and ESPNDeportes

    1 will be shown on ESPNDeportes only.

    Total 21 games; Any playoffs?
     
  14. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    I'm gonna lower my expectations for this game, now that i've seen it.

    250K viewers at the most.
     
  15. ceezmad

    ceezmad Member+

    Mar 4, 2010
    Chicago
    Club:
    Chicago Red Stars
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Paint drying on ESPN gets 250K.

    At least 400K maybe 500K+
     
  16. evangel

    evangel Member+

    Apr 12, 2007
    Brett Favre drying the paint get 1.2M.
     
  17. bbsbt

    bbsbt Member+

    Feb 26, 2003
    And yet Brett Favre farting gets 2.3M.
     
  18. looknohands

    looknohands Member+

    Apr 23, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    A lot of people are incredibly stupid, then. I'm willing to bet that NBCS would be thrilled with a steady average of 150k by the end of the season.
     
  19. looknohands

    looknohands Member+

    Apr 23, 2009
    Louisville, KY
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Considering the fact that the NBCS deal was signed as a replacement for FSC, yes. The goal was to improve ratings over what they were getting with FSC, not match ESPN.
     
  20. Twix1138

    Twix1138 Member

    Jul 9, 2010
    150K will be good enough for NBCSN. That would mean MLS is their 2nd most viewed product on the channel. If Union vs Rapids can get 145K, then 150K should be a pretty easy target.
     
  21. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    Nope. I believe Indycar is the highest rated product -- getting about 400,000 viewers per race. NHL gets about 350,000. If MLS finishes with 150,000, that will be pretty good for NBCSN but not their best product.
     
  22. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    Tim Tebow praying will get 5.6 million, although they will all be a bunch of washed up sports writers who can't think of another topic to cover.
     
  23. ScrappytheSeal4

    Jun 5, 2010
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Tim Tebow was bigger than sports, so you'd understand if "washed up sports writers" felt the need to talk about it too.
     
  24. RfrancisR

    RfrancisR Member+

    Aug 7, 2006
    New Orleans Diaspora
    Yeh, I forgot. It's so rare that a first round draft pick has a chance to succeed in the NFL.
     
  25. monster

    monster Member

    Oct 19, 1999
    Hanover, PA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Because it helps your blog get noticed better if you have a headline people will react to.
     

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