MLS Playoff Race: 28 July [R]

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by HalaMadrid, Jul 28, 2002.

  1. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    <table cellpadding="2" cellspacing="2" border="0" width="100%"><tbody><tr><td valign="Top" colspan="8" bgcolor="#330099"><div align="Center"><font color="#cccccc"><u><big><big><big><b>MLS PLAYOFF RACE</b></big></big></big></u></font><br></div></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>TEAM</b><br></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>GP</b><br></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>W</b></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>T</b></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>L<br></b></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>GD</b><br></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><div align="Left"><font color="#000000"><big><b>PTS</b></big></font></div></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ff6600"><font color="#000000"><big><b>GAMES LEFT</b></big></font></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" colspan="8"><u>SUPPORTERS SHIELD RACE</u><br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#3366ff"><big><b><font color="#ffffff">San Jose (W)</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">21<br></td><td valign="Top">12<br></td><td valign="Top">2<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">+14<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#009900"><big><b>38</b></big></td><td valign="Top">vDC, vDAL, @COL,<br>@DC, vCLB, @LA, vLA<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#cc0000"><big><b>Dallas</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">19<br></td><td valign="Top">8<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">4<br></td><td valign="Top">+2<big><b><br></b></big></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#009900"><big><b>31</b></big></td><td valign="Top">vKC, vCHI, @MET, @SJ,<br>vLA, @COL, vMET, vNE, @DC<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#ffcc00"><big><font color="#009900"><b>Los Angeles</b></font></big><br></td><td valign="Top">19<br></td><td valign="Top">9<br></td><td valign="Top">3<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">+1<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#009900"><big><b>30</b></big></td><td valign="Top">vNE, @CLB, vCOL, vKC,<br>@DAL, vMET, @CHI, vSJ, @SJ<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" colspan="8"><u>PLAYOFF HUNT</u><br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#006600"><big><b><font color="#ffffff">Colorado</font></b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">21<br></td><td valign="Top">9<br></td><td valign="Top">3<br></td><td valign="Top">9<br></td><td valign="Top">-5<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="yellow"><big><b>30</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">vCLB, @LA, vSJ,<br>@NE, vDAL, @KC, vKC<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="red"><big><b>Metrostars (E)</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">20<br></td><td valign="Top">9<br></td><td valign="Top">2<br></td><td valign="Top">9<br></td><td valign="Top">+2<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="yellow"><big><b>29</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">vCLB, vDAL, vDC, @LA,<br>@DAL, vDC, @DC, @NE<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#3333ff"><big><b><font color="#ffffff">Kansas City</font></b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">20<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">6<br></td><td valign="Top">0<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="yellow"><big><b>28</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">@DAL, @DC, @CHI, vCLB,<br>@LA, vCHI, vCOL, @COL<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="red"><big><b><font color="#ffffff">Chicago</font></b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">19<br></td><td valign="Top">8<br></td><td valign="Top">3<br></td><td valign="Top">8<br></td><td valign="Top">+5<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="yellow"><big><b>27</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">vDC, @DAL, vKC, @NE,<br>vNE, @KC, vLA, vCLB, @CLB<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="yellow"><big><b>Columbus</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">20<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">4<br></td><td valign="Top">9<br></td><td valign="Top">-4<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="yellow"><big><b>25</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">@MET, @COL, vLA, @KC,<br>vNE, @SJ, @CHI, vCHI<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" colspan="8">- - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#000066"><big><b><font color="#ffffff">New England</font></b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">20<br></td><td valign="Top">7<br></td><td valign="Top">1<br></td><td valign="Top">12<br></td><td valign="Top">-7<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="red"><big><b>22</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">@LA, vCHI, @CHI, vCOL,<br>@CLB, vDC, @DAL, vMET<br></td></tr><tr><td valign="Top" bgcolor="#000000"><big><b><font color="#ffffff">DC United</font></b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">19<br></td><td valign="Top">6<br></td><td valign="Top">2<br></td><td valign="Top">11<br></td><td valign="Top">-8<br></td><td valign="Top" bgcolor="red"><big><b>20</b></big><br></td><td valign="Top">@CHI, vKC, @SJ, @MET,<br>vSJ, @NE, @MET, vMET, vDAL <br></td></tr></tbody></table><br>(W) or (E): Division Leader<br><br><u>TIEBREAKERS</u><br>1) Head-to-Head<br>2) Goal Differential<br>3) Total Goals<br>4) Rules #1-3 (Road Games)<br>5) Rules #1-3 (Home Games)<br>6) Fewest Disciplinary Points<br>7) Coin Toss<br><br><u>CURRENT PLAYOFF MATCHUPS</u><br>(1) San Jose v Columbus (8)<br>(2) Metrostars v Chicago (7)<br>(3) Dallas v Kansas City (6)<br>(4) Los Angeles v Colorado (5)<br><br><u>TEAMS STILL INVOLVED IN US OPEN CUP</u><br>San Jose, Colorado, Los Angeles, Dallas, Columbus,<br>Metrostars, Kansas City (Quarterfinals)<br><br><u>TEAMS STILL INVOLVED IN FC CHAMPIONS' CUP</u><br>Kansas City (Semifinals)<br><br>
     
  2. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Mods, please stick.
     
  3. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Target Numbers

    Playoff Qualification Number - 44 pts

    Western Conference Championship - SJ needs 20 pts that they earn or Dallas loses

    Eastern Conference Championship - Metro need 25 pts they earn or Chicago loses
     
  4. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thanks Hala.

    I don't understand the Playoff Qual Number. Columbus, currently 8th, would have to win 6 and tie 1 out its remaining 8 games just to reach it, and yet currently it's in the playoffs. I'm probably not understanding your definition of the Play Qual Number. Maybe you mean if you reach 44 you're pretty much AUTOMATICALLY qualified? So what might be the MINIMUM number?
     
  5. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    The maximum number of points one of the non-playoff teams at this time could achieve (DC United) is 43 pts. You only have to beat two teams to make the playoffs, so if your team reaches this number, you're in for sure. Example: If San Jose get 2 wins in their next 2 matches, they wil qualify for the playoffs regardless of whether they lose every single match form then on.

    This number will change from week to week, obviously, dependent on the current teams out of the playoffs and on results, but will only go down.
     
  6. kebzach

    kebzach Member

    Dec 30, 2000
    Greenfield, WI
    stuck
     
  7. ojsgillt

    ojsgillt Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Lee's Summit MO
    I think the cut off number will be 34 points. There are several interesting races right now.


    Western conference.
    San Jose sits comfortably in first but have played two more games than LA and Dallas. LA and San Jose play each other their last two games of the season so, while Dallas plays each of those two teams one more time, this one is going to come down to the wire.

    the playoff cut.
    DC-NE-CLB
    NE is one game off of CLB and DC is 5 pts back with a game in hand. CLB plays 5 of their last 8 on the road. Once again this one is going to come down to the wire.

    Jockeying for playoff position.
    Chi-Col-LA-KC-Met-DAL
    These teams are within 4 pts of each other, one bad game could mean you go from the 3rd seed to the 7th seed. The Western confrence plays each other alot, so every game is important since a win will kill two birds with one stone, points for you, and no points for another playoff team.

    All this parity is going to add up to an exciting last 8 or 9 games.
     
  8. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    fixed your post.
     
  9. FlashMan

    FlashMan Member

    Jan 6, 2000
    'diego
    Club:
    --other--
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Hala, I think something has happened to your table. All I see is a bunch of code, and that was from two different computers.

    Or is the problem from my end?
     
  10. lufty

    lufty Member

    Aug 21, 2000
    I am seeing the same thing. Oh well.. anywho... It is still possible for DC or NE to obtain the second seed. The revs are 2 wins from NY
     
  11. usagoal

    usagoal Member

    Oct 19, 2000
    Las Vegas
    I see the code, no tables
     
  12. kevbrunton

    kevbrunton New Member

    Feb 27, 2001
    Edwardsburg, MI
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I see the same thing.
     
  13. Jeremy Goodwin

    Feb 16, 1999
    Club:
    Montreal Impact
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the board operator shut off html code in posts.
     
  14. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078
    and it's back... weird
     
  15. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Your math is a bit off. DC can get 47 and New England can get 46.
     
  16. HalaMadrid

    HalaMadrid Member

    Apr 9, 1999
    Oy vey. I dunno how I got that. I'll rework it for thursday's edition I guess.
     
  17. jmeissen0

    jmeissen0 New Member

    Mar 31, 2001
    page 1078

    could it have possibly been that he got the team wrong because if the win out, other teams can't get all their points (because those teams will beat them)... thus lowering what wouldn't make it?
     
  18. Rocket

    Rocket Member

    Aug 29, 1999
    Chicago
    Club:
    Everton FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    True, but it's not possible for both teams to reach those totals since they play one game vs. each other.

    In order to compute the actual playoff qual number, you'd need to run through a whole mess of scenarios, and would probably need to do it by computer.

    Didn't someone (perhaps Lucid?) run a simulation last year to compute the odds of various teams making the playoffs?
     

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