I think they're about the same in terms of IQ. Bunbury has a better touch and is more explosive, though, while EJ is a much, much much much better header of the ball. He's pretty bad. Right now his only way to score is to run onto a throughball.
One trick pony? [ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBWBoZKs8J0"]Teal Bunbury - Pure Striker - YouTube[/ame] Thanks 723.
Uh, yeah. One-trick pony. He's played 51 games, nearly 3000 professional minutes, and has 12 goals. Of those 12: He's never scored off a cross He's never scored off a set-piece He's never scored off a 1v1 move He's scored once from outside the 18 He's scored twice on a loose ball in front of net After nearly two years as a professional striker, he's got a grand total of 3 goals that weren't from running onto a through ball. He's a one-trick pony. The US (Canadian?) Dom Oduro.
Bunbury is not very good at headers. His off the ball movement can be very good, though. I think he is a much better player than EJ. No soccer IQ? Did you see him play with the national team where he was setting Agudelo up for shots on goal? I'm surprised someone would compare him to EJ. Shocked kind of.
[ame="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8O15HIOMQs"]Teal Bunbury: Sporting Kansas City | More than a soccer player; a role model - YouTube[/ame] Goal 1: Throughball where he gets behind a static Chivas USA defense Goal 2: Throughball where he gets behind a static Houston defense Goal 3: Throughball where he gets behind a static Columbus defense Goal 4: Misplayed defensive clearance that puts him behind the TFC defense - he headed it over the onrushing keeper, his only headed goal as a pro Goal 5: Throughball where he gets behind a static Chicago defense Goal 6: Misplayed backpass that puts him behind a static Chicago defense Goal 7: Wonderful long-range curler to the far post vs. Vancouver Goal 8: Clever throughball and cut-back vs. Vancouver Goal 9: Slams home a loose ball against New England Goal 10: Slams home a rebound against RSL Goal 11: Throughball where he gets behind a static Houston defense Goal 12: Throughball where he gets behind a static Houston defense Of his 12 goals, only two have come against defenses that aren't shit (Columbus last year and RSL this year). Houston has the potential to not be shit, but only if Geoff Cameron plays in back - as he is now, though as he wasn't when Bunbury got a brace a few weeks back. I'm not saying the kid has no future or is useless at the MLS level, but he's still very much a one-trick pony. Hopefully he can add hold-up play, clever movement in the final third and some heading ability in time - he certainly has the physical tools to do so.
I know this is an MLS thread, but forgive me for mentioning the Mexican league. I watched Pueblo last night and, though he had a quite first half, Beasley came alive in the second half. I don't read Spanish, but I think he was named the man of the match. He looked really good.
Cameron has now been moved back with Houston. If Klinsmann is looking for a ball playing center, Cameron is the best in the league.
He's not Latin-American, so I don't see how that could be the case. That's only because Orozco transferred to the Mexican league with slick back-line passers more on his level.
Maybe to camp cupcake.............. A camp cupcake group of Gonzalez, John, Ream, and Cameron would be quite a competition. That's what you need. Guys competing for spots, and pushing each other to get better.
will there be a camp cupcake? ("camp strudel"?). Klinsi's comments that the top guys are expected to play in every friendly doesn't seem to leave room for a Camp Strudel.
Agreed. I'm very intrigued. I'd have zero objections to Gabe getting a look in one of the friendlies next month.
It does when the January camp doesn't fall on Fifa dates. JK has said he had major issues about the length of time that MLS is off for its offseason. He said he will try to set up training periods for prospects of the National teams with clubs that are in season. He also said that he wanted those players back for the January camp. http://www.mlssoccer.com/news/article/2011/08/30/klinsmann-outlines-plan-help-mlsers-us-picture
That's a great article. But, I don't see where it says that we'll have a "camp strudel." He says there will be a camp in Jan. I'm assuming that there are open dates in Jan. I don't see anything in there that implies that there will be a "camp cupcake" style camp - aside from the authors use of the phrase "the traditional January camp." And, that phrase came from the author, not Klinsman. If there is, great. I'm all for Camp Strudel. But, it conflicts w/ what Klinsman has said in the past. Also, I think it's awesome that he's trying to arrange for MLS guys to go overseas & train during the offseason. I suggested last year that a guy like McInerny could really benefit from this type of thing. Even if it's w/ lower division clubs. I mean, 6 weeks w/ a League One club would be better than doing nothing. Charlton is League One these days, right? They've got to have a good set up. Send him to Charlton for 6 weeks (or longer, since he isn't a Camp Strudel prospect yet). Any promising young American in MLS who, for some reason doesn't fit into the Olympic picture, get them a loan or training gig. Heck, even the older guys that are on the fringe. Chad Marshall, Borchers, Cooper, see if you can get a loan for them. At whatever level can be arranged. Where's the harm?
I was being sarcastic. Klinsmann thought Orozco, as an MFL central defender, would help him build up from the back, even though during his loan to MLS he was a mediocre passer and played pretty poorly in general.
Outside of Africa there are no FIFA dates in January. http://www.fifa.com/aboutfifa/calendar/events.html I think all this points to Camp as usual in Jan.
Seems like everyone has forgotten about mike magee, because he's been in the league so long. However he's only 25 or 26. He's putting together one of the best seasons of the attack-minded US players. From the US attacking pool Magee, Shea and Wondo have looked awesome this season (no need to mention donovan). Yeah and Gonzalez is long overdue for callups.
Come on. Magee is a part-time starter for a reason. He's an iffy finisher with below-average athleticism, zero one-vs-one ability and no defensive instincts. Dude's a good back-up in MLS. He's nowhere near the quality needed for international play.
Agreed Magee has been a great super sub/fill gap type player but doesnt have the goods for the international stage. I'd like to see Hamid, Johnson, and Rimando (for experience reasons) at GK D-Gonzo, John (though he may be leaving this winter break) Marshall, Ream, Franklin, Williams and Z. Loyd. M-Shea (again might be gone this winter), Salinas, Sizzo, Duka, Fielhaber, Adu, Beckerman, Larentowitz, Davis,, F-Agudelo, Bunbury, Bruin, Mwanga (if he had his gc) Sapong I think its too early for the following guys but there definitley ones to keep an eye on; Neagle and Fucito and Seatle, Gil at RSL, Salgado at Vancouver