MLS deadline moves

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by BuffloSoldier, Sep 14, 2007.

  1. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    DC acquires Jerson Monteiro from the Fire for a conditional 2008 pick.

    RSL gets Yura Movsisyan and a YI spot through the 2009 season for a partial Adu allocation and two picks (2009 3rd round and 1st round supplemental).
     
  2. Buzz Killington

    Buzz Killington Member+

    Oct 6, 2002
    Lee's Summit
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    you have a link to the Yura trade?
     
  3. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Press release from KC's front office.
     
  4. BuffloSoldier

    BuffloSoldier BigSoccer Supporter

    Jan 31, 2000
    Northern NJ
    Crew sends a 4th round supplemental pick to the Fire for Leonard Griffin's right.
     
  5. ursula

    ursula Member

    Feb 21, 1999
    Republic of Cascadia
    Pretty soon the Adu allocation will be sliced up so much that partial ones will be worth 35 cents.
     
  6. wufc

    wufc Member

    May 1, 2005
    UC Irvine
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Thank god for the MLS deadline, I'm sick of hearing about a trade every 3 hours. If MLS was smart, they'd institute trade windows rather than just a season ending deadline.
     
  7. jason1551

    jason1551 Member+

    Apr 9, 2003
    Columbus, GA
    Club:
    DC United
    The Fire also brought back John Thorrington before the window closed.
     
  8. fireman451

    fireman451 Moderator
    Staff Member

    Jun 26, 2002
    The Midwest
    Club:
    --other--

    That's not very exciting to see . . . Monteiro was worse than bringing back John from his barista duties at the local Starbucks? Wow.
     
  9. Sandon Mibut

    Sandon Mibut Member+

    Feb 13, 2001
    Curious that KC would give up on Yura this late in the season with so little time to replace him.

    I'd a thought he'd have been a nice assett for a playoff team to have.
     
  10. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    While Yura is welcome and a nice addition to a team looking to build for next year (young, goal scoring forwards in Yura and Robbie Findley? Nice . . . ), the YI is key for RSL, which had only one before now. Long reason why - well, in short, because of trading permanent YI slots for rights to crap players like Adolfo Gregorio.

    Does this make three pretty sweet deals in a row for RSL?

    Chris Klein for Robbie Findley and Nathan Sturgis - check.

    Mehdi Ballouchy for Kyle Beckerman - check.

    3rd in 2009, 1st supplemental in 2009, partial Adu allocation for Yura and YI slot - check.

    Given that Jeff Cunningham for Alecko Eskandarian and cash led in part to the signing of the new trio of Argentines, maybe that's four pretty savvy deals.

    Huh!
     
  11. Placid Casual

    Placid Casual Member+

    Apr 2, 2004
    Bentley's Roof
    That ensures that we get into the playoffs.....

    Heaven forbid we sign someone who can put the ball in the net.....
     
  12. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Thought they had 2. Any new info?
     
  13. Sanguine

    Sanguine Member

    Jul 4, 2003
    Reston, VA
    Five, when you count the addition-by-subtraction that was the firing of Ellinger.
     
  14. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    What the hell happened to that guy anyway?
     
  15. justinian

    justinian New Member

    Aug 10, 2006
    I see a ridiculous amount of promise in Yura, and RSL as a whole is looking promising for next season. Granted they've got quite a bit of fixing up still needed, but if their prospects fall into place they'll at least have a high octane offense to close out this season and on into next year.
     
  16. dcufan1984

    dcufan1984 Member

    Feb 17, 2002
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    it's amazing what getting rid of incompetant people can do for an organization. things are looking up in salt lake, and i wish you guys the best now that that hack ellinger has jumped ship.
     
  17. 352gialloblu

    352gialloblu New Member

    Jun 16, 2003
    England
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    England
    I think it had more to do with us having 5 or 6 forwards, and no proper right midfielders. Now, though, we have 4/5 forwards and John Thorrington. :rolleyes:
     
  18. uniteo

    uniteo Member+

    Sep 2, 2000
    Rockville, MD
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    So it only took 4 deals and 2/3 of a season to field a competitive lineup?

    yup, savvy is the word

    or maybe "competent"
     
  19. Baysider

    Baysider Member+

    Jul 16, 2004
    Santa Monica
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    I'm really impressed with what RSL is doing. And the only new person in management is Kreis, right? Talk about a good hire.
     
  20. ssanchez

    ssanchez Member

    Oct 15, 2000
    Club:
    Los Angeles Galaxy
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Maybe its elinger and his ability to spot good talent, but he is not a good tactician.
     
  21. JoeW

    JoeW New Member

    Apr 19, 2001
    Northern Virginia, USA
    I can understand why DCU and RSL would make these deals (both get guys who were drafted very high, are still young, RSL is building for the future and doesn't have a lot of attacking talent, DCU could use a reserve forward and had a developmental slot open). But why would Chicago and KC make those deals?

    Chicago I see--just a little bit. They add John Thorrington. Okay, their team isn't real strong on right outside mids (well, actually, their team has none but there's a good question as to whether Thorrington, especially an out of work Thorrington would qualify). But Thorrington? If he's the answer, do we really want to know what the question was? They basically gave away the #8 pick in this year's draft to add Thorrington. Think of it this way--if at the time of the Superdraft, Thorrington's rights had been owned by say....Columbus....and Chicago traded the #8 pick in the draft for those rights (in order to sign him), we'd all be talking about how Chicago got scamed. Regardless of what you think of Monteiro, Thorrington isn't worth sacrificing a lot to get.

    But the other thing is that KC has been sliding in the playoff picture and Chicago is still on the cusp. So you figure each of these teams would be looking to add something (even if it's only small) which might make the difference in 1-2 games (which could have immense playoff positioning implications--especially for Chicago).

    Maybe, just maybe, you can argue that adding Thorrington qualifies. But trading Movsisyan for future stuff? These are basically the sort of deals that, to me, ignore the realities of where each of these teams is/are at present. This is kind of like a baseball team in a pennant race, with the possibility of not making the playoffs, just sneaking in, or getting in on a strong finish and the team, instead of trading a marginal prospect or cash for a role player or aging veteran instead trade one of their top 30 players and then crow about how they got a good draft pick for the next year of "future considerations."
     
  22. YilmazOrhan

    YilmazOrhan Well Brian, I hit it first time...

    Jun 18, 2006
    Suburbia, Kansas
    Club:
    Kansas City Wizards
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    With Scott Sealy returning to form, Movsisyan was expendable for the Wizards - for this season. We weren't adequately compensated for his potential, but he wasn't going to make the difference in 2007.

    The best rationale I can come up with for this deal is that Curt Onalfo is going to take the allocation dollars from this deal and from Eddie Johnson's inevitable departure and do some South American shopping in the offseason. KC has some frontline players who are nearing the end of their careers, and perhaps it's time to reload.
     

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