MLS Coaching Records/Noteworthy Survivors?

Discussion in 'Statistics and Analysis' started by numerista, Jul 18, 2006.

  1. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    General question:
    Are MLS coaching records anywhere online?

    Specific question:
    Is John Ellinger the furthest sub-.500 coach in MLS history?

    I think he is, but since my access to career records is limited, the table below may be incomplete ...

    Furthest Sub-.500 Coaches in MLS, Career
    (W-L-T; shootouts counted as ties)​

    22 John Ellinger 9-31-9; RSL 05-
    16 Bora Milutinovic 4-20-9; NY 98-99
    15 Thomas Rongen 70-85-35; TB 96, NE 97-98, DC 99-01, Chv 05
    11 Brian Quinn 21-32-23; SJ 97-99
    10 Mike Jeffries 26-36-16; Dal 01-03
    8 Fernando Clavijo 42-50-22; NE 00-02, Col 05-

    Current 2006 records: Clavijo 7-6-3; Ellinger 4-9-4
     
  2. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
  3. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    Mondelo: -14

    I don't think anyone's close to Ellinger. The worst MLS team over 2 seasons is only 21 games under .500.
     
  4. texgator

    texgator New Member

    Oct 28, 2003
    Plano
    I would think points per game would be a better indicator of coaching success than winning percentage. A coach that draws a lot of games, while not necessarily exciting, could be more successful in PPG than one that has a higher win percentage with less draws.
     
  5. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Good catch ... fwiw, I've cleared out some PMs.
     
  6. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
  7. numerista

    numerista New Member

    Mar 21, 2004
    Tangential question ... in your blog post of best teams, how much do things change if you add playoff games? (This is a bit unfair due to strength of schedule, but including them as regular games might still be better than ignoring them altogether.)
     
  8. scaryice

    scaryice Member

    Jan 25, 2001
    I really haven't even considered that. Like in baseball, and other sports here in the USA, the regular season stats are kept separate from the playoffs. Don't think it would change much though.
     

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