MLS Coaching and Front Office - News & Discussion Thread 2019

Discussion in 'MLS: News & Analysis' started by xbhaskarx, Jan 4, 2019.

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The next MLS coach to get fired will be...

Poll closed Jul 4, 2019.
  1. Adrian Heath

    23 vote(s)
    29.1%
  2. Alan Koch

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Anthony Hudson

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  4. Ben Olsen

    3 vote(s)
    3.8%
  5. Brad Friedel

    8 vote(s)
    10.1%
  6. Brian Schmetzer

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Domenec Torrent

    11 vote(s)
    13.9%
  8. Frank de Boer

    10 vote(s)
    12.7%
  9. Giovanni Savarese

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. Greg Vanney

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  11. Guillermo Barros Schelotto

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. James O'Connor

    6 vote(s)
    7.6%
  13. Jim Curtin

    7 vote(s)
    8.9%
  14. Luchi Gonzalez

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Marc Dos Santos

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  16. Matias Almeyda

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  17. Mike Petke

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
  18. Remi Garde

    2 vote(s)
    2.5%
  19. Veljko Paunovic

    9 vote(s)
    11.4%
  20. Wilmer Cabrera

    1 vote(s)
    1.3%
Multiple votes are allowed.
  1. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States


     
  2. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  3. carnifex2005

    carnifex2005 Member+

    Jul 1, 2008
    Club:
    Vancouver Whitecaps
    To be fair, coaching Monterrey is a huge step up. No surprise him wanting to take that job. At least it isn't a lateral move.
     
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  4. TOAzer

    TOAzer Member+

    The Man With No Club
    May 29, 2016
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    "We are developing players. This is how you should judge us!"
    "We are not responsible for developing players. How dare you judge us on that!"
    "We are not responsible for choosing the best players. It is about The System!"
    "We are not responsible for any System! We are stuck with the players we have !"
    "Trapp and Bradley are responsible for being the Quarterback of The System!"
    "We are not responsible that Trapp and Bradley are the only Quarterbacks we can envision for The System!"
    "We were chosen on merit. You can only judge us by the performance of the team"
    "We were chosen on merit. How dare you judge us by the performance of the team! "

    General Egg, your brain is fried.
     
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  5. Ismitje

    Ismitje Super Moderator

    Dec 30, 2000
    The Palouse
    Club:
    Real Salt Lake
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
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  6. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #1331 xbhaskarx, Oct 5, 2019
    Last edited: Oct 5, 2019
    Parkhurst's description of Steve Nicol's non-existant coaching with the Revs shows just how much has changed in the last decade....





    4m 45s

    Opara:
    "Do you think Stevie Nicol threw a dart at like names, and whatever it landed on he picked?"

    Parkhurst:
    "We did no tactical work, I watched video once in four years... we did no scouting, we did no gym..."

    Feilhaber:
    "Stevie Nicol didn't have time to set up video in between his 36 holes that he played of golf every day, and then the other three hours he spent at the pub."
     
  7. superdave

    superdave Member+

    Jul 14, 1999
    VB, VA
    Club:
    DC United
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    The Revs had several great drafts in a row, sort of like the Steelers around 1970. I guess that was the beginning and end of why Nicol won so much.

    I wonder what Twellman might have to say about this.
     
  8. FoxBoro 143

    FoxBoro 143 Member+

    Jan 18, 2004
    MA
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Exactly. They had one hell of a squad for that time in MLS. Between the regular, drafts which I think was mostly luck, the contraction draft which was a lucky goldmine, and the small league, it was much easier to build a competitive team and win with primitive tactics.
     
  9. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    I've worked every SuperDraft since 2003.

    The draft isn't as bad as some people say. The available talent is probably close to what it has always been as U.S. youth development and regional (mostly Caribbean) scouting has always improved. Yes, most of the cream is now skimmed off the top by MLS Home Grown tags and European/Mexican poaching, but quality through the 60-80 picks hasn't really decreased.

    But there's a difference between 10/12 teams drafting and 20-24 teams. Teams just don't suddenly six or seven of the first 25 picks. Now some teams don't have any in the first 48 picks. That would've been hard to pull off 10 years ago.

    The other big changes are that 1) the gap between NCAA and MLS is far bigger than it used to be and 2) the bottom end of the MLS "first teams" has really gone up. Even if an MLS team landed 5 picks in the first 48, they would be hard pressed to find college players ready to start, even though those new draftees are generally as ready, if not moreso, than their contemporaries were. It's just that the generic MLS roster filler is much, much better than they used to be. MLS teams used to be 5-8 good players then a bunch of scotch tape, smoke, and mirrors. Slotting in a draft pick was much easier. Now most MLS teams have a good 14-20 soccer players. It's a lot harder to make the gameday roster much less the Starting XI as it was.

    Of course Nicol's big secret was just to draft whoever Jay Vidovich was graduating from Wake Forest. As to the dispersal draft, Kansas City fans are still pretty bitter over the Taylor Twellman thing, but to be honest not as much as Dallas fans are about getting screwed out of Chad Marshall in 2004.
     
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  10. scoachd1

    scoachd1 Member+

    Jun 2, 2004
    Southern California
    I think you are being kind to college talent that existed in the early years of the league. Most of the early drafts barely went 30 players (let alone 80) and I think you'd be hard pressed to find 11 guys capable of playing in MLS if you combined the 97 - 99 drafts. As you point out the depth of the league is much better so the floor is a lot higher. But the depth is in college is also much higher higher. What has changed is that there is more money in the game so most of the very top end prospects are getting signed before they even get into college or at the very least, are home-grown.
     
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  11. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States




    Parkhurst, Beasley, Howard, and Rimando (plus Marshall before that) all retiring has me thinking about which players should go into coaching after they retire...
     
  12. JasonMa

    JasonMa Member+

    Mar 20, 2000
    Arvada, CO
    Club:
    Colorado Rapids
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Howard is going into ownership (Memphis and Dagenham & Redbridge).
     
  13. ElNaranja

    ElNaranja Member+

    Houston Dynamo
    United States
    Jul 16, 2017
    Beasley would make an interesting assistant GM, especially if he focused on managing the youth side of the game.

    Sadly there is 0 chance he does that for us because all of our players hate management only slightly less than ownership.
     
  14. dougtee

    dougtee Member+

    Feb 7, 2007
    orlando city needs to nail this hire
     
  15. AeroNaught

    AeroNaught Member+

    Atlanta United
    Feb 14, 2007
    Birmingham, AL
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  16. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
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  17. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States





    You’re not doing things in the right order if you hire a coach and then fire the GM who hired him...
     
  18. stanger

    stanger BigSoccer Supporter

    Nov 29, 2008
    Columbus
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Parkhurst never sold his house in Columbus and is on record saying he was moving back here.

    If he coaches somewhere, it will likely be with the Crew.
     
  19. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    He mentions possibly moving back to Columbus on the latest BS Podcast, but says he doesn’t want a full time job right away as he wants to spend time with his kids.
     
  20. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
  21. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    1181323798936788997 is not a valid tweet id


    Noooooooooo



    Hmmm...
     
  22. AndyMead

    AndyMead Homo Sapien

    Nov 2, 1999
    Seat 12A
    Club:
    Sporting Kansas City
    The Bo Jackson plan.
     
  23. Bluecat82

    Bluecat82 Member+

    Feb 24, 1999
    Minneapolis, MN
    Club:
    Minnesota United FC
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Meanwhile...Adrian Heath's tenure in Orlando keeps looking better as time goes by.

    Perhaps they should have given him that third year.
     
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  24. xbhaskarx

    xbhaskarx Member+

    San Jose Earthquakes
    United States
    Feb 13, 2010
    NorCal
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
     
  25. Q*bert Jones III

    Q*bert Jones III The People's Poet

    Feb 12, 2005
    Woodstock, NY
    Club:
    DC United
    The BS podcast?
     

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