PBP: MLS 2017 Week 33 DECISION DAY Continuous PBP Thread [Multiple R]

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  1. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Welcome to the final PBP thread of the 2017 MLS regular season. As always, keep it civil and respectful or the mods will go all Baldomero Toledo on your ass.

    All times Eastern, national broadcasts noted. I'm assuming the US national broadcast(s) will be announced soon. Portland/Vancouver seems the obvious choice as first in the West is up for grabs.

    MAJOR LEAGUE SOCCER
    Sunday, October 22

    Atlanta United FC vs Toronto FC, 16:00, TSN4
    D.C. United vs Red Bull New York, 16:00
    Montreal Impact vs New England Revolution, 16:00, TSN5/TVAS
    New York City FC vs Columbus Crew SC, 16:00
    Philadelphia Union vs Orlando City SC, 16:00
    FC Dallas vs Los Angeles Galaxy, 16:00
    Real Salt Lake vs Sporting Kansas City, 16:00
    Portland Timbers vs Vancouver Whitecaps FC, 16:00, TSN1
    San Jose Earthquakes vs Minnesota United FC, 16:00
    Seattle Sounders vs Colorado Rapids, 16:00
    Houston Dynamo vs Chicago Fire, 16:00

    NASL
    Wednesday, October 18

    San Francisco Deltas vs Miami FC, 17:00
    Jacksonville Armada vs FC Edmonton, 19:00
    Puerto Rico FC vs New York Cosmos, 19:30
    Saturday, October 21
    Indy Eleven vs Puerto Rico FC, 15:00
    North Carolina vs San Francisco Deltas, 19:30
    FC Edmonton vs Miami FC, 21:00
    Sunday, October 22
    Jacksonville Armada vs New York Cosmos, 16:00

    USL
    Conference Quarterfinals
    Friday, October 20

    Louisville City vs Bethlehem Steel, 19:30
    Real Monarchs SLC vs Sacramento Republic, 22:00
    Saturday, October 21
    Rochester Rhinos vs Charlotte Independence, 18:05
    Charleston Battery vs Red Bull New York II, 19:00
    Tampa Bay Rowdies vs FC Cincinnati, 19:30
    San Antonio FC vs Tulsa Roughnecks, 20:30
    Swope Park Rangers vs Phoenix Rising, 20:30
    Reno 1868 vs OKC Energy, 20:45

    FIFA U-17 WORLD CUP
    Round of 16
    Wednesday, October 18

    Ghana vs Niger, 7:30, FS2
    Brazil vs Honduras, 10:30, FS2
    Quarterfinals
    Saturday, October 21

    Mali vs Ghana/Niger, 7:30, FS2
    United States vs England, 10:30, FS2
    Sunday, October 22
    Spain vs Iran, 7:30, FS2
    Germany vs Brazil/Honduras, 10:30, Fox Soccer Plus
     
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  2. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Decision Day: a day so important that PRO was able to assign trial referees to three of the eleven games. Hail to you DC/NY, MTL/NE, and PHI/ORL, for you are all playing Officially Meaningless Games to end the season. Yeah, the Red Bulls get to go to the playoffs, but they're stuck in 6th place so who cares? Special shoutout to PHI/ORL for not only getting a rookie whistle but a rookie whistle who doesn't even have any other MLS assignments, fourth official or otherwise.

    Without further ado, your final regular season set of games and referee stats.


    2017 Stats: 363 (of 374) games, 3.55 Y/g, 88 R (0.24/g)
    All-Time: 5066 games, 3.42 Y/g, 1297 R (0.26/g)


    Sunday, October 22
    Atlanta United FC vs Toronto FC
    R: Robert SIBIGA
    - 45 games, 3.60 Y/g, 9 R (0.20/g)
    2017: 23 g, 3.96 Y/g, 4 R (0.17/g)

    ATL: 2 g, 2.00 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 0.50 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 0 W - 1 D - 1 L (0.500 PPG)

    TOR: 5 g, 1.00 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 2.20 Y/g, 1 R (0.20/g)
    REC: 1 W - 3 D - 1 L (1.200 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    D.C. United vs Red Bull New York
    R: David GANTAR
    - 52 games, 2.54 Y/g, 21 R (0.40/g)
    2017: 7 g, 2.71 Y/g, 3 R (0.43/g)

    DC: 6 g, 1.33 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 1.17 Y/g, 4 R (0.67/g)
    REC: 2 W - 1 D - 3 L (1.167 PPG)

    NY: 3 g, 0.33 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 0.67 Y/g, 2 R (0.67/g)
    REC: 1 W - 0 D - 2 L (1.000 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    Montreal Impact vs New England Revolution
    R: Rubiel VAZQUEZ
    - 3 games, 2.67 Y/g, 1 R (0.33/g)
    2017: 3 g, 2.67 Y/g, 1 R (0.33/g)

    MTL: 1 g, 2.00 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 0.00 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 1 W - 0 D - 0 L (3.000 PPG)

    NE: 1st game

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    New York City FC vs Columbus Crew SC
    R: Ismail ELFATH
    - 102 games, 3.14 Y/g, 25 R (0.25/g)
    2017: 20 g, 3.00 Y/g, 7 R (0.35/g)

    NYC: 4 g, 1.75 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 2.25 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 1 W - 0 D - 3 L (0.750 PPG)

    CLB: 10 g, 1.00 Y/g, 3 R (0.30/g)
    OPP: 2.00 Y/g, 2 R (0.20/g)
    REC: 3 W - 1 D - 6 L (1.000 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    Philadelphia Union vs Orlando City SC
    R: Joseph DICKERSON
    - 1st game

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    FC Dallas vs Los Angeles Galaxy
    R: Jose Carlos RIVERO
    - 89 games, 3.93 Y/g, 24 R (0.27/g)
    2017: 21 g, 4.29 Y/g, 7 R (0.33/g)

    DAL: 9 g, 2.00 Y/g, 1 R (0.11/g)
    OPP: 2.33 Y/g, 2 R (0.22/g)
    REC: 5 W - 1 D - 3 L (1.778 PPG)

    LA: 5 g, 1.80 Y/g, 2 R (0.40/g)
    OPP: 1.40 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 1 W - 2 D - 2 L (1.000 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    Real Salt Lake vs Sporting Kansas City
    R: Ricardo SALAZAR
    - 248 games, 3.66 Y/g, 70 R (0.28/g)
    2017: 20 g, 3.40 Y/g, 4 R (0.20/g)

    RSL: 30 g, 1.67 Y/g, 3 R (0.10/g)
    OPP: 2.10 Y/g, 6 R (0.20/g)
    REC: 13 W - 8 D - 9 L (1.567 PPG)

    SKC: 35 g, 1.86 Y/g, 3 R (0.09/g)
    OPP: 1.91 Y/g, 7 R (0.20/g)
    REC: 11 W - 10 D - 14 L (1.229 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    7/16/2005 KC 3 - 2 RSL
    5/29/2010 RSL 4 - 1 KC
    9/17/2011 RSL 1 - 0 SKC
    5/21/2016 SKC 1 - 3 RSL


    Portland Timbers vs Vancouver Whitecaps FC
    R: Allen CHAPMAN
    - 107 games, 3.64 Y/g, 24 R (0.22/g)
    2017: 21 g, 3.29 Y/g, 5 R (0.24/g)

    POR: 11 g, 1.82 Y/g, 1 R (0.09/g)
    OPP: 2.45 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 3 W - 6 D - 2 L (1.364 PPG)

    VAN: 14 g, 2.21 Y/g, 1 R (0.07/g)
    OPP: 1.71 Y/g, 2 R (0.14/g)
    REC: 7 W - 4 D - 3 L (1.786 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    3/28/2015 VAN 2 - 1 POR
    5/2/2015 POR 0 - 0 VAN
    11/1/2015 POR 0 - 0 VAN (Playoffs)


    San Jose Earthquakes vs Minnesota United FC
    R: Hilario GRAJEDA
    - 155 games, 3.46 Y/g, 24 R (0.15/g)
    2017: 16 g, 3.94 Y/g, 1 R (0.06/g)

    SJ: 13 g, 1.92 Y/g, 1 R (0.08/g)
    OPP: 1.38 Y/g, 1 R (0.08/g)
    REC: 4 W - 4 D - 5 L (1.231 PPG)

    MIN: 1 g, 2.00 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 1.00 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 0 W - 0 D - 1 L (0.000 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    Seattle Sounders FC vs Colorado Rapids
    R: Chris PENSO
    - 122 games, 3.68 Y/g, 34 R (0.28/g)
    2017: 24 g, 4.13 Y/g, 3 R (0.13/g)

    SEA: 9 g, 1.44 Y/g, 2 R (0.22/g)
    OPP: 1.67 Y/g, 1 R (0.11/g)
    REC: 5 W - 2 D - 2 L (1.889 PPG)

    COL: 12 g, 1.75 Y/g, 1 R (0.08/g)
    OPP: 1.17 Y/g, 2 R (0.17/g)
    REC: 5 W - 5 D - 2 L (1.667 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    11/22/2016 SEA 2 - 1 COL (Playoffs)


    Houston Dynamo vs Chicago Fire
    R: Alan KELLY
    - 84 games, 3.36 Y/g, 14 R (0.17/g)
    2017: 24 g, 3.50 Y/g, 2 R (0.08/g)

    HOU: 4 g, 2.00 Y/g, 1 R (0.25/g)
    OPP: 1.75 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 0 W - 2 D - 2 L (0.500 PPG)

    CHI: 6 g, 2.17 Y/g, 0 R
    OPP: 1.17 Y/g, 0 R
    REC: 2 W - 2 D - 2 L (1.333 PPG)

    Previous matching or reverse fixtures:
    NONE


    *All team stats include playoff games
     
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  3. THOMA GOL

    THOMA GOL BigSoccer Supporter

    Yokohama F-Marinos
    Jul 16, 1999
    Paradise of the Pacific
    Club:
    Columbus Crew
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Bring in the noise, bring in defunct. Oh Columbo!
     
  4. ManiacalClown

    ManiacalClown Member+

    Jun 27, 2003
    South Jersey
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    #4 ManiacalClown, Oct 18, 2017
    Last edited: Oct 18, 2017
    I'm watching an old recording of an MST3K aired in syndication that includes the original commercials. It's a delight. When this aired, the #1 movie in America was THE ROCK.

    EDIT: OMG the Corn Pops Mission: Impossible sweepstakes!
     
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  5. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    ******** it all.

    This thread will suck.
     
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  6. RafaLarios

    RafaLarios Member+

    Oct 2, 2009
    Medellín
    Club:
    Atletico Nacional
    Nat'l Team:
    Colombia
    I'm looking this week's games for fan support to columbus across MLS..

    I really hope it happens...
     
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  7. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    As a practical matter, Decision Day is once again over-hyped.

    In the EC, spots 1 and 6 are set. The rest can jostle around. In the WC, spots 1 to 5 can jostle around in various ways. Seeding is of dubious importance, so who really cares? Spot 6 in the WC is still up for grabs as the only real playoff decision left for decision day. SJE, FCD, and RSL could all claim 6th place.

    The only other thing of note to be decided on Decision Day is last place, which I don't expect MLS will be touting.
     
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  8. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I started a thread on the USMNT board. It felt kind of dirty.
     
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  9. sitruc

    sitruc Member+

    Jul 25, 2006
    Virginia
    You should be banned from MLS N&A for that.
     
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  10. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    I'm giving him the cold shoulder.
     
  11. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Then nothing has changed.
     
  12. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    Eventually we will get the drama that was promised. It may be a while.
     
  13. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Why do you believe that? With continued expansion, I think it's just the opposite.
     
  14. Gamecock14

    Gamecock14 Member+

    May 27, 2010
    Club:
    Chicago Fire
    I mean eventually in that at some point, maybe we get 5-7 games that matter and it will be a unique event. I don't think we will ever truly get what is advertised, the possibility exists.

    At the same time, what is "excitement". Is it having the SS being challenged on the last day? Is it having no seeds decided until the last day? Is it having 3 or more teams competing for the last spot? Is it all three happening? One of those alone isn't that great. Even in the europe, it often isn't that exciting.

    As I finish this, I realize I have become a terrible strawman and accept any punishment.
     
  15. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    I demand less terrible straw men!
     
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  16. Kejsare

    Kejsare Member+

    Mar 10, 2010
    San Diego, CA
    Club:
    Portland Timbers
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    Gosh, get it right.

    DECISION DAY PRESENTED BY AT&T
     
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  17. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    Let's just be honest, Decision Day this year is all about Cascadia: who will win the Cascadia Cup (Seattle or Portland) and who will win the West (Vancouver or Portland)? Cascadia has taken over, deal with it!
     
  18. Len

    Len Member+

    Club: Dallas Tornado
    Jan 18, 1999
    Everywhere and Nowhere.....I'm the wind, baby.
    Actually, it's an good topic; should be interesting to follow.
     
  19. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    Of course it is! After all, I started it. ;)
     
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  20. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    I think the only national TV coverage will be the whiparound coverage on ESPN, so for full games you'll need local TV or MLS Live, or, for the truly desperate, to move to Canada.
     
  21. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    In practice, the whiparound show is nothing but an excuse to show commercials during soccer games.
     
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  22. Sounders78

    Sounders78 Member+

    Apr 20, 2009
    Olympia
    Club:
    Seattle Sounders
    Nat'l Team:
    France
    But if I'm watching local TV I can't be watching the whip-around show (I only have one TV and can't access the local team on MLS Live due to blackouts). So the result will be Sounders on TV. Unfortunately I can't do Portland - Vancouver on MLS Live due to the local blackout in Seattle :mad:.
     
  23. ThreeApples

    ThreeApples Member+

    Jul 28, 1999
    Smurf Village
    Club:
    San Jose Earthquakes
    Nat'l Team:
    United States
    If you have a device that can get WatchESPN streaming, you could put the whiparound on that while you watch the Sounders on local TV.

    I'll be at the stadium, so I won't have to deal with any of this.
     
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  24. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
  25. Knave

    Knave Member+

    May 25, 1999
    So, that didn't go as planned.

     

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